Conversation No. 642-1

Date:  January 2, 1972
Time:  9:07 pm - unknown before 11:59 pm
Location:  Oval Office

The President met with Mark I. Goode, William H. Carruthers, Donald W. Richardson, Robert Wussler, James Wall and members of the Columbia Broadcasting System [CBS] technical crew.

Voice level

Lighting

Introductions
-Wussler
-Wall
-Previous work with the President during primaries

Camera angles
-Shots

The President, Goode and Carruthers left at an unknown time before 9:30 pm.

[General Conversation]

[Equipment noise]

The President, Goode and Carruthers and Oliver F. (“Ollie”) Atkins entered at an unknown time after 9:07 pm.

Photograph session
	-Timing

	Temperature in room

Microphones

	Make-up

[General Conversation]
	-Heat in room
	-Opening remarks

Time until broadcast

Microphones

Photograph session
-Arrangements
	-Timing
	-Microphones

[General Conversation]
	-Time

Time until broadcast

[General Conversation]
	-The President’s schedule

Time until broadcast

Make-up
-Lighting

Time until broadcast

Goode, Carruthers, et al. left and Dan Rather entered at an unknown time after 9:07 pm.

	Rather’s gratitude

	California

The President was interviewed by Rather at 9:30 pm.

[A transcript of the following portion of the conversation appears in Public Papers of the Presidents, Richard M. Nixon, 1972, pp. 1-17]

[End of transcribed portion]

Recent interview
	-“Ms.” Question
	-The President’s forthcoming trip to the People’s Republic of China [PRC]
-Rather
	-Overtime

	PRC trip
		-Rather
			-CBS
		-Mike Wallace
		-[Howard K.?] Smith

Gordon Manning, William A. Leonard, II, Gerald L. Warren, press photographers, Atkins and members of the press entered at an unknown time after 9:30 pm.

Introductions

Recent interview
	-Length

Photographers

[General Conversation]
	-Wussler

Unknown event in 1958

Chicago

	CBS staff scheduled to go to the PRC
		-Peking

Football game, January 2, 1972
-Miami Dolphins 

[General Conversation]
	-Atkins

The President left at 10:34 pm.

[General Conversation]

The conversation was cut off at an unknown time before 11:59 pm.

Conversation No. 642-2

Date:  January 3, 1972
Time:  Unknown between 8:02 am and 8:15 am
Location:  Oval Office

The President talked with H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman.

Haldeman's schedule
-Staff meeting
-Meeting with unknown persons
-Meeting with the President

Conversation No. 642-3

Date:  January 3, 1972
Time:  8:15 am - unknown before 8:45 am
Location:  Oval Office

The President met with H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman.

The President's schedule
-Peter G. Peterson

-John N. Mitchell
-William P. Rogers
	-Peterson resignation
	-John A. Scali
-Peter M. Flanigan
-Peterson
-John B. Connally
-Paul A. Volcker
-Forthcoming call from Haldeman
-Clark MacGregor
-Pending legislation
-The President's possible actions

Pending legislation
	-Political considerations

The President’s schedule
	-Peterson meeting
		-Mitchell

The President's previous interview with Dan Rather, January 2, 1972
-Reactions
	-The President’s forthcoming efforts
-Jack B. Krueger, editor of Dallas News
-Conversation with Haldeman
-Rather 
-Effect on the President's reelection
-The President's previous conversation with Manolo Sanchez
-Question on Vietnam and the President's reelection
-The President's answer
	-Haldeman’s view
-Questions 
-Rather's delivery 
-Reactions
-International Chief of Operating Engineers
-Questions 
-The President's response
-Economy
	-Rather

Rogers
-Conversations with the President and Haldeman
-Reaction to the President's interview with Rather

Press conferences
-Compared with the President's interview with Rather
-Rather
-Questions on race relations and "Ms." issues
-Sarah McLendon
-Press conference format
	-Follow-ups
		-Reporters

The President's interview with Rather
-Reactions
-Robert H. Bork
-Sidney Hook
	-Impression of rehearsal
-Compared with the President’s interview with Howard K. Smith
	-Rogers’s view
-Rather's attempt to show political motivations in the President
-Political questions
-Rather’s motives
-The President's responses
-Political effect
-Smith
-Calls
-White House operator
-Rather
-The President's handling
-Performance 
	-Compared to press conference format
-Question on women's liberation
-Closing remarks
-Questions on Vietnam
-Bombing
-Prisoners of war [POWs]
-Troop withdrawals
-1968 troop levels
-Unemployment question
-Figures
-Dwight D. Eisenhower
-Democrats
-Rogers's view
-Interviews of other administration officials

Rogers
-Forthcoming interview with Smith
-Compared with Henry A. Kissinger
-Views regarding Cabinet as spokesmen

The President's interview with Rather
-Question of the President's personality and performance
-Polls
-The President's response
-Polls
-Rhetoric

The President's schedule
-Political implications
-Decisions
-Peterson
-American Hospital Association officials
-Importance of events
-Press conferences
-The President's performance
-Equal time for Democrats
-Validity

The President's interview with Rather
-Reactions
-Rather's performance
-Question on economy
-Reactions
-Compared with speech format

Speeches
-The President's preparation
-Speechwriters
	-State of the Union speech
	-Raymond K. Price, Jr.
	-Workload

Possible press conference
-Question on Vietnam troop withdrawal
-India-Pakistan issue

	The President’s schedule
		-New Hampshire

Vice President Spiro T. Agnew
-The President's response during interview to question concerning second term

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The President's interview with Rather
-Points covered
-Moscow summit
-Peking summit
-Vietnam
-Economic plan
-Presidential term
	-Activities
		-Politics
		-1968 bombing pause
			-Lyndon B. Johnson

	Robert H. Finch

An unknown man entered at an unknown time after 8:15 am.

Delivery

The unknown man left at an unknown time before 8:45 am.

News summary
-Big stories that the President needs to know about
-The President's reading of New York Times and Washington Post
-Television stories
-Length
-"Week in Review"
-Cover sheet of latest news
-Judgment call by staff
-The President's action and thought
-"Week in Review"
-Day of issuing
-News magazines

Haldeman's schedule
-Domestic Council staff, Congressional liaison staff and speechwriters
-George P. Shultz, John D. Ehrlichman and Kissinger
-Finch, Donald H. Rumsfeld, MacGregor, Shultz, Ehrlichman, Kissinger, Peterson and Flanigan
-The President's schedule
-Ronald L. Ziegler
-Ehrlichman's schedule
-Location of particular staff members

Haldeman left at an unknown time before 8:45 am.

Conversation No. 642-4

Date:  January 3, 1972
Time:  Unknown after 8:15 am until 8:45 am
Location:  Oval Office

The President met with H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman

The President's schedule
-Forthcoming meeting with staff
-Charles W. Colson, George P. Shultz, Peter G. Peterson, Donald H. Rumsfeld and Clark MacGregor
-Ronald L. Ziegler, John D. Ehrlichman and Robert H. Finch

The President and Haldeman left at 8:45 am.

Conversation No. 642-5

Date:  January 3, 1972
Time:  Unknown between 8:45 am and 9:02 am
Location:  Oval Office

Unknown men [Secret Service agents] met.

An agent talked with unknown person.

[Conversation No. 642-5A]

The President's schedule
-Roosevelt Room

[End of telephone conversation]

The agents left at an unknown time before 9:02 am.

Conversation No. 642-6

Date:  January 3, 1972
Time:  Unknown between 9:02 am and 9:07 am
Location:  Oval Office

The President met with Stephen B. Bull.

The President's schedule
-Meeting with Gerald L. Warren

	The President’s forthcoming call to Richard A. Moore

Bull left at an unknown time before 9:07 am.

Conversation No. 642-7

Date:  January 3, 1972
Time:  Unknown between 9:02 am and 9:07 am
Location:  Oval Office

The President talked with the White House operator.

Request for a call to Richard A. Moore

Conversation No. 642-8

Date:  January 3, 1972
Time:  Unknown between 9:02 am and 9:07 am
Location:  Oval Office

The President talked with Henry A. Kissinger.

Strategic Arms Limitation Talks [SALT]
-Legislation
-Possible meeting
	-Melvin R. Laird
	-Forthcoming call to William P. Rogers

Phone call

Conversation No. 642-9

Date:  January 3, 1972
Time:  Unknown between 9:02 am and 9:07 am
Location:  Oval Office

An unknown person talked with the President.

[Unintelligible]

Conversation No. 642-10

Date:  January 3, 1972
Time:  9:07 am - 9:14 am
Location:  Oval Office

The President talked with Richard A. Moore.

Greeting

Unknown man
	-Speechwriting

The President's interview with Rather, January 2, 1972
-Compared to Howard K. Smith interview
	-The President's previous conversation with H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman
-Smith's questions 
-Rather 
	-The President’s handling
-Question on the President's possible delay tactics for sake of reelection
-Vietnam
-Moscow and Peking summit
-US economic program
-Vietnam
	-Bombing pause
-Question on use of "Ms."
-The President's conversation with daughter
-Gloria Steinem's comment
-The President's response
-Question on ending Vietnam war
	-Timing
-Lyndon B. Johnson
-Presidential responsibility
-Value
-Compared with press conferences
-Value for administration
-Question on Vice President Spiro T. Agnew
-Republican National Convention
-Popular opinion
-Rather 

Asa V. Call
-Health

Donald I. Goodenow
-Political life
	-1956
-Stanford University

Conversation No. 642-11

Date:  January 3, 1972
Time:  9:15 am - 9:19 am
Location:  Oval Office

The President met with Gerald L. Warren.

Greetings

[An unknown woman talked with the President at 9:15 am.]

[Conversation No. 642-11A]

Rose Mary Woods
-Location

[Woods talked with the President between 9:15 am and 9:17 am.]

Location

[End of telephone conversation]

The President's interview with Dan Rather, January 2, 1972
-Rather 
	-Tone
-Questions 
	-Television
-Possible delay tactics by the President
-Ending the war
-The President's response
-Rather's possible opinion
-Press
-Attendance
-Possible view
-Value
-The President's performance and responses

-Peace
-Timing
-Prisoners of war [POWs]
-Vietnam
-Omission of any questions concerning John B. Connally
-Question on race relations
	-Differences
-Slavery
-Liberals' views
-The President's response
-Time

The President's schedule
-Warren's announcement

Warren left at 9:19 am.

Conversation No. 642-12

Date:  January 3, 1972
Time:  9:19 am
Location:  Oval Office

The President talked with Henry A. Kissinger.

Kissinger's schedule

Conversation No. 642-13

Date:  January 3, 1972
Time:  9:19 am
Location:  Oval Office

The President talked with the White House operator.

[See Conversation No. 18-1]

Conversation No. 642-14

Date:  January 3, 1972
Time:  9:19 am - 9:23 am
Location:  Oval Office

The President talked with William P. Rogers.

[See Conversation No. 18-2]

Conversation No. 642-15

Date:  January 3, 1972
Time:  9:25 am - 10:04 am
Location:  Oval Office

The President met with Henry A. Kissinger.

The President's interview with Dan Rather, January 2, 1972
-News coverage
	-The President's responses regarding troop withdrawals and residual force
	-Reporting by Marvin L. and Bernard Kalb

William P. Rogers
-Economic meeting

Strategic Arms Limitation Talks [SALT]
-The President’s forthcoming meeting with Gerard C. Smith
-Rogers
-Photograph
-Credit
-Antiballistic missiles [ABM]
-Smith
-The President's views on ABM

-Rogers
-Negotiating position
	-Possible leak
	-Defense Department
		-Adm. Thomas H. Moorer
-Sub-launched Ballistic Missiles [SLBM]
-Executive agreement
-Tubes
-Smith
-Negotiating position
-Rogers
-Smith
-Rogers
-Attendance at meeting
-Smith
	-Possible action
-Melvin R. Laird
-Memorandum
-ABM
	-Number of sites
	-Location
		-National Command Authority [NCA]
			-Washington, DC
-Soviets
-Tests
	-Smith
	-State Department
	-Congress
	-Number
		-Nuclear Test Ban Treaty
	-The President’s concern about Soviet intentions
-Recess from talks
-Smith’s view
	-Soviet summit
			-Edward M. Kennedy
		-Kissinger’s instructions to Smith
-Soviet summit
	-Kennedy
		-Bureaucracy
	-Smith
		-Credit
		-1972 election
-US position
-Congress
	-Possible problem

Vietnam
-Peace plan
-Cable from Ellsworth F. Bunker to Kissinger
-Nguyen Van Thieu
-The President's possible speech
-Backgrounder by Kissinger
-Television
-Effect
-Timing
	-Possible date
		-Paris
	-Dealings with press
		-Coverage
			-State of the Union speech
				-Possible delay
-Possible content
	-History of negotiations
-Timing
	-State of the Union speech
	-Possible response
-Possible response from Administration critics
-Administration negotiations
	-Seven Points
	-Deadline
-Thieu
-Possible resignation
-Possible rejection by North Vietnam
-Effect
-The President's possible speech
-Timing
	-State of the Union message
-Possible response from Administration critics
-Forthcoming Peking and Moscow summits
-Soviet Union
	-Possible strategy
-People’s Republic of China [PRC]

The President's forthcoming meeting with Smith and Rogers
-Photographs
-Gerald L. Warren
-Desirability

The President's interview with Rather
-Question regarding the President's possible delay tactics regarding Vietnam
-Summits
-Congress

The President's forthcoming meeting with Smith and Rogers
-Photographs
-Effect
	-Soviet Union

Thelma C. (“Pat’) Nixon's trip to Africa
-Photographs
-News coverage
-Press and television
-Toast
-Mrs. Nixon’s demeanor

SALT
-Meeting with Smith
-Duration
-Points to be made
-ABM treaty
-Executive agreement
-SLBM
-Kissinger's view
-Number of tubes
-Political implications
-Popular opinion
-Smith's role in negotiations
	-Deadline

	Smith
		-Administration handling

Kissinger's schedule
-Plane

Vietnam
-Forthcoming troop withdrawal announcement, January 13, 1972
-Format
-Press conference
-Oval Office
-Press room
	-TV coverage
-Ronald L. Ziegler
-Peace plan

India
-Indira Gandhi
	-Possible normalization of relations with US
-Relations with Pakistan
	-The President's interview with Rather
	-Question

The President's interview with Rather
-Rather's performance and tone
-Manolo Sanchez's view
-The President’s view
-Question on the President's possible delay tactics regarding reelection
-Vietnam, Moscow and Peking summits and economic program
-The President's response
-Compared with previous performance by Lyndon B. Johnson
-Handling critics
-The President's response
-Public opinion
-Question on use of "Ms."
-Gloria Steinem
-Question on the President's charisma
-The President's response
	-Performance
-Question on race relations
	-Differences
-Quakers and Catholics
-The President's performance
-Radio
	-Kissinger’s hearing
	-Television
-The President's voice
	-Effectiveness
-Camera shots
-Oval Office window

Vietnam peace plan
-The President's forthcoming speech
-Timing
-North Vietnamese response
	-Negotiations
	-Possible public statement
-Congress
-Announcement
	-Desirability
		-PRC
		-Negotiations
		-Networks
-Troop withdrawal announcement
	-Lead stories
-The President's response during Rather interview
	-Troop levels
-Edward R.G. Heath
-Possible build-up
-Announcement
	-Phrasing
-Background
	-1971 negotiations

[The President talked with Rose Mary Woods at an unknown time between 9:25 am and 10:04 am.]

[Conversation No. 642-15A]

Instructions

[End of telephone conversation]

Stephen B. Bull entered at an unknown time after 9:25 am.

The President's schedule
-Woods
-Smith
-Rogers
-Woods
-Smith
-Scheduled meeting

Bull left at an unknown time before 10:04 am.

Kissinger
-Dealings with Smith
-Dealings with Rogers

The President's dealings with Melvin R. Laird and Rogers
	-SALT

SALT
-Public relations
-Negotiations
-Election year
-Right wing
-Liberals’ views

India-Pakistan relations
-US aid
-Military
-Refugees
-Agha Muhommad Yahya Khan
-Military to civilian government
-Mutual military pullback
-Gandhi
-United Nations [UN]
-Cease-fire resolution
-Veto in Security Council
-Vote in General Assembly
-US use of influence with Soviet Union and India
-India’s possible action
-Effect on world
-US efforts
	-Effectiveness
-Soviet aid
-US aid
-US relations with PRC, India and Pakistan

	Bangladesh
-US recognition
-US counsel in Dacca’s call to Bangladesh foreign minister
-PRC
	-UN
-State Department
-The President’s forthcoming trip to PRC
-Possible memorandum
	-Phrasing
		-White House clearance of contact
		-The President’s view
			-Interpretation
				-World and US press
			-Soviet recognition
			-Rogers
			-Counsel
		-Rogers
		-Presidential clearance of contact
		-Interpretation
		-Soviet Union

Kissinger's forthcoming meeting with the President

Foreign policy
-The President's guidance

-Kissinger’s authority
-The President's authority

Kissinger left at 10:04 am.

Conversation No. 642-16

Date:  January 3, 1972
Time:  10:05 am - unknown before 10:14 am
Location:  Oval Office

The President met with Rose Mary Woods.

Woods's schedule

Weather

	Woods’s schedule
		-Trip to California
			-Unknown items
				-Plane

Painting

Misplaced papers

Painting
-Owner 
	-Fred Sutter
-Value
	-Artist
	-Death

Manolo Sanchez entered at an unknown time after 10:05 am.

Misplaced papers
-Roosevelt Room
-The President's name

Sanchez left at an unknown time before 10:10 am.

The President's previous interview with Dan Rather, January 2, 1972
-Woods's friends' opinions
-Rather
-Rather
-Appearance
-Camera angles
-Shot from outside of Oval Office
-Focus on the President
-The President's demeanor
-The President's performance
-Paul Garvey's views
-Rather's performance
-Question on use of "Ms."
-The President's subsequent calls to Julie Nixon Eisenhower and Tricia Nixon Cox

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-The President's response
-Rather's performance
-Accusation concerning the President's possible delay tactics regarding Vietnam and reelection
-The President's response
	-Peace
	-US casualties
-Rather's performance
	-Woods’s view

John Foster Dulles
-Bust
	-Possible location
		-Executive Office Building [EOB]

News
-Television
-Newspapers and newsmagazines
-Readership
-"Man of the Year" award
-Readership

[The President talked with the White House operator at an unknown time between 10:05 am and 10:10 am.]

[Conversation No. 642-16A]

[See Conversation No. 18-3]

[End of telephone conversation]

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Sanchez entered at an unknown time after 10:05 am.

Misplaced papers
-Possible location

Sanchez left at 10:10 am.

[The President talked with Gerald L. Warren between 10:10 am and 10:11 am.]

[Conversation No. 642-16B]

The President's State of the Union message
-Announcement
-Date

[End of telephone conversation]

Misplaced papers
-Out box
-Alexander P. Butterfield
-Briefcase
-Roosevelt Room
-Notes
-"Little room"
-Woods's search

Bust of Dulles
-The President's inspection
-Decision on display
-EOB

Stephen B. Bull entered and Woods left at 10:13 am.

Sanchez
-Location
-Previous instructions from the President

Bull left at an unknown time before 10:14 am.

Conversation No. 642-17

Date:  January 3, 1972
Time:  10:14 am - 10:15 am
Location:  Oval Office

The President met with Rose Mary Woods.

Misplaced papers
-Manolo Sanchez
-Unknown person who cleaned room [Roosevelt Room?]
-Possible location
	-Residence
	-The President's instructions to Sanchez
-The President's recollection
-The President's breakfast
-Out box
-Alexander P. Butterfield
-Importance

Woods left at 10:15 am.

Conversation No. 642-18

Date:  January 3, 1972
Time:  Unknown between 10:15 am and 10:23 am
Location:  Oval Office

The President met with Manolo Sanchez.

Misplaced papers
-Possible location
-Search of residence
	-The President’s instructions to Sanchez

Sanchez left at an unknown time before 10:23 am.

Conversation No. 642-19

Date:  January 3, 1972
Time:  Unknown between 10:15 am and 10:23 am
Location:  Oval Office

The President met with Stephen B. Bull.

The President's schedule
-Gerard C. Smith and William P. Rogers

The President's schedule
-Henry A. Kissinger
-Location
-Previous meeting with the President
-Meeting with Smith, Rogers and Kissinger

Request for a call to Kissinger

Bull left at an unknown time before 10:23 am.

Conversation No. 642-20

Date:  January 3, 1972
Time:  10:23 am - 10:56 am
Location:  Oval Office

The President met with Gerard C. Smith, William P. Rogers and Henry A. Kissinger; the White House photographer and members of the press were present at the beginning of the meeting.

Greetings

Smith's schedule
-Trip to Vienna

	-London

Arrangements for photograph session
-Seating
	-Angles

The President's schedule

The President's interview with Dan Rather, January 2, 1972
-Lack of question on Strategic Arms Limitation Talks [SALT]

[Photograph session]

Photos
-Smith's address
-Unknown embassy

	[General conversation]

SALT
-Report by verification panel
-Problem areas
-Rogers's experience
-Popular opinion
-Opposition to agreement
	-Arms race
		-Soviet escalation
			-US response
	-American Security Council [ASC]
	-Conservatism
-Henry Tolbin [sp?]
	-Television shows
	-Soviet threat
		-Congress
	-Soviet escalation
	-Soviet tests
		-Number
			-Nuclear Test Ban Treaty
	-Soviet intentions and power
	-US negotiations
	-Appeal to public
		-Right and left
	-Political impact
	-World opinion
-Treaty
	-Kissinger
	-Antiballistic missile [ABM] agreement
-Executive Agreement
-Congress
	-Filibuster
-John W. Bricker Amendment
-Treaty
-Exchange of letters
-Georges J.R. Pompidou
	-Azores
-Sub-launched ballistic missiles [SLBM]
-Pompidou
	-Letter
		-Maurice Schumann
-SLBMs
-Smith's proposal
-Defense Department
-Details
	-Tube numbers
-Congressional views
-Final agreement
-Effect on domestic front
-Defense Department
	-Proposals
		-Letters from Melvin R. Laird
		-Details
			-Interceptors
				-Number
-Possible criticism
	-Defense Department
		-Views of Air Force, Navy and Army
		-Lobbying groups
		-Effects
		-ASC
-Proposal
	-Reporting
		-Control
			-State Department
		-Soviet Union
			-National Security Council [NSC]
			-Details
				-Interceptors
					-Number
						-Helsinki
-Timing
-The President’s forthcoming trip to the People's Republic of China [PRC]
-Political climate
	-Public opinion
	-Lobbying by Rogers and Kissinger
	-Congressional support
					-Barry M. Goldwater, John G. Tower, James Buckley and Edward J. Gurney
	-Rogers’s conversations
-Smith 
-The President's goal regarding arms race
-Smith's goal
-Henry M. (“Scoop”) Jackson
-Hyman G. Rickover
-Charley Reinhardt [sp?]
-ASC
-Gen. Earle G. (“Buzz”) Wheeler
-Defense budget
-Soviet budget
-John M. Ashbrook
-Negotiations
-Pentagon
-John S. Foster, Jr.
-Gardiner L. Tucker
-Foster
	-Experience
-Tucker
-Suggestions
-Foster
-Influence on Congress
-Smith's and Foster's previous testimony before Congress
-[Unknown congressman]
-Foster
-Views 
-Compared with Harold Brown
-John Sherman Cooper
-Forthcoming meeting with Smith, January 4, 1972
-Past support
-Future in Congress
-Support of administration
-Message from the President
	-Possible meeting
-Congressional advisors
				-Michael J. Mansfield, Hugh Scott, Cooper and W[illiam] Stuart Symington
-Symington
-Past performance
-John C. Stennis
-Support for administration
-Cooper
-Defense budget
-Possible submarine freeze
-Soviets
-Kissinger
-Nuclear arms race
			-The President's previous conversation with Soviet Agriculture Minister [Vladimir V. Matskevich]
-Parity
	-Land based weapons
-Submarines
-Building
-Authorization compared to appropriation
-Arms control
-ABM
-Congressional authorization
	-Offensive weapons
-Laird's previous speech
-Nuclear arms race
-Offensive weapons
	-US public opinion
-Smith's suggestions
	-Bill
-India-Pakistan War
-Effect on US position
	-Soviet Union
		-Mutual interests
		-Negotiations
-Middle East
-Mutual trust
	-Trade
-Offensive weapons controls
-The President's instructions to Smith
-Negotiations
	-Seriousness of Soviets
-Intercontinental Ballistic Missile [ICBMs] freeze
-Heavy missiles freeze
-Light missiles, launchers and silos conversion
-Detonation
-Mobiles
-Subs
-Mutual trust
-Public relations
-Verification
-Public opinion
-Arms race
-Smith's relations with Congress

	The President's forthcoming trip to PRC
-People desiring to accompany the President
-Columbia Broadcasting System [CBS] crew

Smith and Kissinger left at 10:55 am.

The President's interview with Rather
-Press coverage
	-Television and radio
		-Question on the President's possible delay tactics regarding Vietnam, PRC and Soviet trips, economic program and reelection
	-The President’s response
		-Newspapers’ view
		-Bombing pause
			-Lyndon B. Johnson

The President's schedule
-Forthcoming meeting with Rogers

Rogers left at 10:56 am.

Conversation No. 642-21

Date:  January 3, 1972
Time:  Unknown between 10:56 am and 11:00 am
Location:  Oval Office

The President met with Stephen B. Bull.

The President's schedule
-Clark MacGregor
-H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman
-Gerard C. Smith
-George P. Shultz and Caspar W. (“Cap”) Weinberger
-Shultz, MacGregor, Weinberger

Manolo Sanchez entered at an unknown time after 10:56 am.

Bull left at an unknown time before 11:00 am.

Misplaced papers
-Search

An unknown man entered at an unknown time after 10:56 am.

Sanchez left at an unknown time before 11:00 am

-Notes
-Possible location

-Wastebasket
-Letter

The President's schedule
-Shultz

The unknown man left at an unknown time before 11:00 am.

Conversation No. 642-22

Date:  January 3, 1972
Time:  Unknown after 10:56 am until 11:00 am
Location:  Oval Office

The President talked with H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman.

The President's schedule
-George P. Shultz
-Caspar W. (“Cap”)Weinberger
-Shultz
-Personnel
-Budget
-Weinberger

Conversation No. 642-23

Date:  January 3, 1972
Time:  11:00 am - 11:08 am
Location:  Oval Office

The President met with George P. Shultz.

	Budget
	-Health Bill

	-Medicare
	-Present waiting period provision on costs
	-Views of Caspar W. (“Cap”) Weinberger, Elliot L. Richardson, John D. Ehrlichman and Shultz
	-Sharing costs
	-Waiting period
	-Views of the elderly
	-Ways and Means Committee and House Resolution [HR] 1
	-Waiting period
	-Senate Finance Committee
	-Richardson's position
		-Elderly
	-Weinberger's position
	-Cost
	-Richardson
	-Day care bill
	-Herman E. Talmadge bill
	-The President’s view
	-Memorandum
	-Constituency
-Shultz’s proposal to the President
	-Reasons
		-Expense
		-Weinberger’s view

The President's schedule
-Forthcoming meeting with Shultz and Weinberger
-Budget

National economy
-Projections
-Gross National Product [GNP]
-Base adjustment
-Range of error

Council of Economic Advisors [CEA]
-Herbert Stein and Ezra Solomon
-Possible woman member
-Marina von N. Whitman
-Stein's view
-John B. Connally's view
-Stein
-H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman's forthcoming call to Connally
	-Woman member
		-Political advantage
-Woman member
-Connally's view
-Forthcoming call from Shultz
	-Political advantage
		-Supreme Court
	-Stein
-Whitman
-Price Commission
-International economics
-Treasury Department staff
-Kenneth W. Dam's views
-John [D. Ehrlichman?]
-Paul W. McCracken's views
-Appearance

The President's interview with Dan Rather, January 2, 1972
-Camera angles
-The President's appearance

Shultz left at 11:08 am.

Conversation No. 642-24

Date:  January 3, 1972
Time:  Unknown between 11:08 am and 11:09 am
Location:  Oval Office

The President talked with the White House operator.

[See Conversation No. 18-4]

Conversation No. 642-25

Date:  January 3, 1972
Time:  Unknown after 11:08 am until 11:09 am
Location:  Oval Office

The President met with Stephen B. Bull.

The President's schedule
-Clark MacGregor

Bull left at 11:09 am.

Conversation No. 642-26

Date:  January 3, 1972
Time:  11:09 am - 11:15 am
Location:  Oval Office

The President met with H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman.

The President's previous interview with Dan Rather, January 2, 1972
-Technical aspect
	-Private poll
-Camera angles
-The President's appearance

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-Opinions
-George P. Shultz and Henry A. Kissinger

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-J. Edgar Hoover
-Haldeman
-Room and feet
-[Unknown person]
-Mark I. Goode
-Complaints
-Shots 
-Set
-The President's face
-Height
-[Unknown person]
-Camera angles
			-National Broadcasting Corporation [NBC], American Broadcasting Corporation [ABC]
-Columbia Broadcasting System [CBS]
-Satisfaction with end product
-Goode
-Experience
-CBS
-Camera angles
-Possible opinions from Patrick J. Buchanan, William L. Safire and Leonard Garment
-Richard A. Moore's possible opinion
-Camera shots
-Feet
-Room

Misplaced papers
-Manolo Sanchez
-Notes
-Sanchez's search

Haldeman left at 11:15 am.

Conversation No. 642-27

Date:  January 3, 1972
Time:  11:15 am - 11:42 am
Location:  Oval Office

The President met with Clark MacGregor.

	Greetings

	Weather

MacGregor's schedule
	-Activities

The President's State of the Union message
-Date
-Congress
-Content
-Presentation of vision
-The President's stature compared to that of opponents

MacGregor's schedule
-Meeting with Anna C. Chennault
-Barbara MacGregor
-Chennault's previous meetings with Nguyen Van Thieu, Park Chung Hee and Ferdinand E. Marcos, December 1971
-Possible summit
					-Thailand, South Vietnam, Philippines, Taiwan, Republic of China and South Korea
-State Department
-Chennault
-Possible location
	-Bangkok, Manila
-Timing
						-The President's forthcoming trip to People's Republic of China [PRC]
-Possible meeting with the President
-Timing
-Australia and New Zealand
-Possible result

[The President talked with Jody Smith between 11:20 am and 11:21 am.]

[Conversation No. 642-27A]

[See Conversation No. 18-5]

[End of telephone conversation]

The President's call to Smith
-Smith's age
-Selection as Iowa delegate to Republican National Convention

MacGregor’s meeting with Chennault
-Possible summit
	-Reply
		-Timing
	-Timing
-The President's view of Asian leaders
-Henry A. Kissinger
-Health
-Chennault

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	Chennault
-Age
-Marriage to Claire L. Chennault
-Age
-MacGregor
-Burma
-Age
	-MacGregor

Pending legislation
-Revenue-sharing, health and welfare reform
-Views of William E. Timmons, Richard K. Cook and Tom C. Korologos
-Title Four on family assistance
-Probable Senate action
-Desired effect for the President
-The President’s view
	-Experimental program
-Risk
-Democratic congressmen
-Support for the President
-Robert C. Byrd, Harry F. Byrd, Jr., Carl B. Albert, [Thomas] Hale Boggs, George H. Mahon and F. Edward Hebert
-Republicans
-Possible duration
-Trade legislation
-Handling
	-Delay

The President's record
-Outlook
-Liberals' view
-Clark and Barbara MacGregor’s schedule
	-Mel Elfin of Newsweek
	-Martin Z. Agronsky
	-Conversation with MacGregor
	-New Year's Eve party
	-Leonard and Grace (Albert) Garment
	-William L. and Helena (Julius) Safire
	-John Kenneth Galbraith
	-Katharine L. Graham
	-The President’s leadership
-The President's leadership
	-Vietnam
	-Bombing strike
	-Forthcoming PRC trip
	-India-Pakistan
	-US handling
-News media
	-Public opinion

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The President's interview with Dan Rather, January 2, 1972
-Question on the President's charisma
-Compared with John F. Kennedy
-Kennedy's performance
-Media
-Response the President received from teenage girls at Capitol
	-Armed Services Committee
-Celebrities
-Photograph of girl

	MacGregor
		-Attitude

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The President's interview with Rather
-The President's response regarding foreign policy
-Long-term view
	-Youth
-PRC
-Korea
-Vietnam
-Nuclear war
-View of MacGregor's daughter
-Clark and Barbara MacGregor
-Question on George C. Wallace
-Content and tone
-The President's response

	MacGregor’s gratitude toward President

Attorney General position
-MacGregor
-Rumor regarding position
-MacGregor's conversation with Richard G. Kleindienst
-Source of stories
	-Kleindienst’s response to press questions
	-John N. Mitchell
	-Kleindienst's response
-MacGregor's request
-Story on MacGregor's intentions
	-MacGregor’s conversation with Mitchell
-Retraction
-Current position
-Importance
-1972 election
	-Post-campaign possibilities
	-Cabinet
-Mitchell

Mitchell
-Retention
-Confirmation fight for future Attorney General candidate
-Future political work as Attorney General
-Robert F. Kennedy's example

Cabinet officers
-Honor
-Elliot L. Richardson

MacGregor's health
	-Back

The President's schedule
-California
-Forthcoming meetings with Eisaku Sato
			-Previous meetings with Georges J.R. Pompidou, Edward R.G. Heath and Willy Brandt
-Reaction

The President's effectiveness

Manolo Sanchez entered and MacGregor left at 11:36 am.

Misplaced papers
-Sanchez's search
-The President's suit worn previous evening
-The President's sport coat in Executive Office Building [EOB] office
-The President's office
-Sport coat in EOB office

Sanchez left at an unknown time before 11:42 am.

Conversation No. 642-29

Date:  January 3, 1972
Time:  11:42 am - 12:05 pm
Location:  Oval Office

The President met with George P. Shultz and Caspar W. (“Cap”) Weinberger.

	Greetings
Budget
-Final draft
-Order of magnitude
-Unemployment
-Deficit
-Outlays
	-Full employment
-1972 and 1973
-Spending
	-Defense
-Economy
-1973 compared to 1972
-Deficits
-1968
-Lyndon B. Johnson
-Size
-Size of national economy
	-Growth
-Downward pressures
-Messages
	-Drafts for the President
	-Legacy of inflation
	-Economic programs
	-Unemployment
	-Inflation

Manolo Sanchez entered at an unknown time after 11:42 am.

Misplaced papers
-Location
-Clothing
-Executive Office Building [EOB] office

Sanchez left at an unknown time before 12:05 pm.

Budget
-Reductions
	-Target level
	-Camp David
	-Defense Department
	-Civilian employment
	-Possible cuts
	-Departments of Health, Education and Welfare [HEW] and Treasury
	-Economic Stabilization program
	-Social Security
	-Congress
	-Goal
-Defense Department
-Bases
-Employment
-Defense strength
-Civilian employment in government
-The President's goal
-Defense Department
-Reaction
-David Packard
	-Robert C. Moot
	-Congressional action
-Civilian employees
	-Target level
-The President's goal
-Pentagon
-Washington, DC area
-Base number
-Cuts
-Washington, DC area
-Number to be cut
-Types of jobs
-Allocation of cuts in nation and region
-General unemployment
-Melvin R. Laird
	-Role
	-Forthcoming talk with Weinberger
		-The President’s instructions
			-Pentagon
	-Case
		-Economy
-Arthur F. Burns
-Allocation of cuts in nation and region
	-Target level
	-Distribution
-Military aides
-Deputies
	-White House budget
	-H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman
-Civilian federal employment
-Allocation of cuts in nation and region
-Washington, DC
-Attrition
-Washington, DC federal government bureaucracy
-Size
-Bureau of Indian Affairs
				-George E. Allen
-Story
	-Harry L. Hopkins
-Works Progress Administration [WPA] workers
-Statistical table
-Bureau of Indian Affairs
-Story
-Welfare

The President's recent interview with Dan Rather, January 2, 1972
-The President's response to question about foreign policy and politics
-Soviet Union and People’s Republic of China [PRC]
-Delay in ending Vietnam War
-Question regarding differences between blacks and whites
-Rather's performance
-The President's response
-Blacks, whites and Chicanos
-Schools, neighborhoods
-Liberals’ view
-Television advertisement for Equitable Life Insurance
-F. Scott Fitzgerald quote on rich people

[The President talked with the White House operator at an unknown time between 11:42 am and 12:05 pm.]

[Conversation No. 642-29A]

[See Conversation No. 18-7]

[End of telephone conversation]

Allen
-Storytelling ability
-Dwight D. Eisenhower
-Bridge
-Harry S. Truman
-Eisenhower
-Heart attack
-Golf game

Story
	-Return call from Allen

Shultz and Weinberger left at 12:05 pm.

Conversation No. 642-30

Date:  January 3, 1972
Time:  12:07 pm - 12:13 pm
Location:  Oval Office

The President met with Clarence C. Hoffman, Mrs. Clarence C. Hoffman, Charles W. Colson, John P. McGill and an unknown man; the White House photographer was present at the beginning of the meeting.

Introductions

Hoffman's driving record

Arrangements for photographs session

Presentation of "Driver of the Year" award sponsored by American Trucking Association, Inc.
-Retention of award
-Use

Arrangements for photograph session
	-Sunlight

	Press

Members of the press entered at an unknown time after 12:07 pm.

[Photograph session]

[General conversation]

Presentation of gifts by the President
	-Cufflinks
	-Pin with presidential seal

The press left at an unknown time before 12:13 pm.

Clarence Hoffman’s comments about the President

Phone

Minnesota
	-Weather

Washington, DC

Hoffman, et al. left at 12:13 pm.

Conversation No. 642-31

Date:  January 3, 1972
Time:  12:13 pm - 12:15 pm
Location:  Oval Office

The President talked with George E. Allen.

[See Conversation No. 18-8]

Conversation No. 642-32

Date:  January 3, 1972
Time:  12:16 pm
Location:  Oval Office

The President talked with the White House operator.

[See Conversation No. 18-9]

Conversation No. 642-33

Date:  January 3, 1972
Time:  Unknown between 12:16 pm and 12:18 pm
Location:  Oval Office

The President met with Stephen B. Bull.

Photograph sessions
-Press
-Oliver F. (“Ollie”) Atkins

Bull left at an unknown time before 12:18 pm.

Conversation No. 642-34

Date:  January 3, 1972
Time:  Unknown between 12:16 pm and 12:18 pm
Location:  Oval Office

The President talked with George P. Shultz and Caspar W. (“Cap”) Weinberger.

[See Conversation No. 18-10]

Conversation No. 642-35

Date:  January 3, 1972
Time:  Unknown between 12:16 pm and 12:18 pm
Location:  Oval Office

The President talked with an unknown person.

The President's schedule
-Jack J. Dreyfus, Jr.
-Lunch
-Duration of meeting

Conversation No. 642-36

Date:  January 3, 1972
Time:  Unknown after 12:16 pm until 12:18 pm
Location:  Oval Office

The President met with Stephen B. Bull.

The President's schedule
-Forthcoming meeting

Bull left at 12:18 pm.

Conversation No. 642-37

Date:  January 3, 1972
Time:  12:18 pm - 12:32 pm
Location:  Oval Office

The President met with John W. Kauffman, Stephen M. Morris, Jack A. L. Hahn, Kenneth R. Cole, Jr. and James H. Cavanaugh; the White House photographer was present at the beginning of the meeting.

Introductions

Photograph

Cancer Bill

Photograph session arrangements

	[Photograph session]
		-The President’s interview with Dan Rather, January 2, 1972

Health care
-Health Bill
	-National health insurance
		-The President’s proposals
	-Support for the President
-Election year
-Edward M. Kennedy Bill
-Socialized medicine and compulsory health insurance
	-The President’s opposition
-Present system in US
-Improvement
-Elliot L. Richardson's work
-Budget
-World situation

-Socialized medicine
-Great Britain
-US health care
-Quality
-Availability
-Cost
	-Insurance coverage
-Health Bill
-Quality compared to quantity of care
-Kennedy Bill
-Analogy to French Revolution
-Cost
-Medical profession
-American Medical Association [AMA]
-Hospital administrators
-Change in health care system
-Present system
-Delivery problems
-Resources
-Cost of living indicators
	-Services
-Quality increases
-Kidney dialysis
-Price freeze
-Medical unions
-Wage demands
-Price freeze and Phase II
-Effect on hospitals
-Cost of Living Council [COLC]
-Possible meeting with Donald H. Rumsfeld

Stephen B. Bull entered at an unknown time after 12:18 pm.

The President's schedule

Bull left at an unknown time before 12:32 pm.

Health care
-Present system in US
-Costs
-Possible meeting with Rumsfeld
-COLC
-Pay Board and Price Commission
-Minimum wage of hospital workers
-Compared to national rate
-Job classes
-Geographical differences
	-Arizona
-Nurses
	-Salaries
-Job market
						-Utilization of Registered Nurses [RNs] and Licensed Practitional Nurses [LPNs]
-Aid to doctors
-Legislation
-Duties
-Doctors
-Aid of nurses and medical technicians for secondary duties
-Rural hospitals
-Armed services
-Medical corpsmen
-Wages
-Quality of technicians
-Armed services
-Medical corpsmen
	-Vietnam
-Recruiting for hospitals
	-Operating rooms [ORs]

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-Medical technicians
-Medex [sp?] program
-Richardson
-Merlin K. Duval
-Cavanaugh
-Liaison with White House

Presentation of gifts by the President
-Cuff links

Kauffman, et al. left at 12:32 pm.

Conversation No. 642-38

Date:  January 3, 1972
Time:  Unknown between 12:32 pm and 12:36 pm
Location:  Oval Office

The President met with Stephen B. Bull.

The President's schedule
-Jack J. Dreyfus, Jr.
-Cabinet Room
-Meeting at 1:30 pm
-Dreyfus's location

Bull left at an unknown time before 12:36 pm.

Conversation No. 642-39

Date:  January 3, 1972
Time:  Unknown after 12:32 pm until 12:43 pm
Location:  Oval Office

The President met with Stephen B. Bull.

	[Unintelligible]

Bull left and reentered at an unknown time after 12:32 pm.

Tricia Nixon Cox
-Call to the President
-Time
	-Camp David
	-Message from the President

Fina Sanchez
-Message to the President through Bull
-Thanks

[The President talked with the White House operator at an unknown time between 12:32 pm and 12:36 pm.]

[Conversation No. 642-39A]

[See Conversation No. 18-11]

[End of telephone conversation]

Sanchez
-Message to the President
-Manolo Sanchez

Misplaced papers
-Location

-Manolo Sanchez
-Executive Office Building [EOB]

Bull left and Alexander P. Butterfield entered at an unknown time before 12:36 pm.

Items for the President’s signature

[The White House operator talked with Butterfield at an unknown time.]

[Conversation No. 642-39B]

[See Conversation No. 18-12; two items have been withdrawn from the conversation]

Butterfield conferred with the President.

Documents
-Distribution
-William P. Rogers
-Melvin R. Laird
-Henry A. Kissinger
-Central Intelligence Agency [CIA]

[End of conferral]

Butterfield left at an unknown time before 12:36 pm.

[The President talked with Tricia Nixon Cox between 12:36 pm and 12:43 pm.]

Conversation No. 642-40

Date:  January 3, 1972
Time:  Unknown between 12:43 pm and 12:45 pm
Location:  Oval Office

The President talked with an unknown person.

Memorandum from Robert H. Finch
-Henry E. Ford, II

-Government support
-Voluntary action
-Grant
-The President’s schedule
				-Possible attendance at National Center for Voluntary Action dinner, February 10, 1972
-Resignation
-Forthcoming meeting with the President
	-Purpose
-Decision

Finch
-Location

Conversation No. 642-41

Date:  January 3, 1972
Time:  Unknown between 12:43 pm and 12:45 pm
Location:  Oval Office

The President met with Stephen B. Bull.

Schedule
-Meeting with Jack J. Dreyfus, Jr.

Conversation No. 642-42

Date:  January 3, 1972
Time:  12:45 pm - 12:46 pm
Location:  Oval Office

The President met with Jack J. Dreyfus, Jr. and Stephen B. Bull.

Greetings

The President's schedule
-Delay of forthcoming meeting

Bull left at an unknown time before 12:46 pm.

Walk to Residence

Dreyfus’s schedule
	-Florida

Dreyfus left at 12:46 pm.

Conversation No. 642-28

Date:  January 3, 1972
Time:  Unknown between 12:46 pm and 2:07 pm
Location:  Oval Office

The President met with unknown men.

Cleanliness of outer room
-Demotion of individual responsible

[Unintelligible]

The conversation was cut off at an unknown time before 2:07 pm.