Conversation No. 663-1

Date:  February 1, 1972
Time:  Unknown between 1:37 pm and 2:53 pm
Location:  Oval Office

The President met with Stephen B. Bull.

Oval Office
	-Furnishings
		-Presidential seal
			-Rug
		-Flags
			-Services
				-Army, Marine Corps, Navy, Air Force, Coast Guard
			-Presidential
			-US
			-Embroidery
				-Initials
		-Painting
			-Charles Willson Peale
		-Bust
		-Chair
			-Heads of State

Bull left at an unknown time before 2:53 pm.

Conversation No. 663-2

Date:  February 1, 1972
Time:  Unknown between 1:37 pm and 2:53 pm
Location:  Oval Office

The President met with Rose Mary Woods [?].

[Unintelligible]

Woods [?] left at an unknown time before 2:53 pm.

Conversation No. 663-3

Date:  February 1, 1972
Time:  2:53 pm - 3:02 pm
Location:  Oval Office

The President met with H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman.

Press relations
-Edith Efron, How CBS Tried to Kill a Book (1972)
	-Publicity
	-William F. (“Billy”) Graham
	-Patrick J. Buchanan
		-Possible letter
			-Efron’s forthcoming testimony
			-Book circulation
			-Distribution with testimony
				-Editors
				-[Samuel J. Ervin, Jr.] Committee
-Antagonism
	-L. Richard Guylay’s view
-Television networks
	-Possible letters and calls
		-Barbara H. Franklin
		-John Birch Society
		-Women
	-Distribution of Efron book and testimony
	-Women
	-News monitoring
		-Possible foundation
			-Efron
				-Democrats
			-John A. (“Jack”) Mulcahy
		-Franklin
			-Station owners

				-American Broadcasting Corporation [ABC], Columbia Broadcasting System [CBS]
				-Foundation
					-Mulcahy
				-Accuracy in media group
				-Buchanan
				-Tom C. Huston
	-Story to CBS [?]
-Criticism of administration
-Guylay memorandum
-Meeting with Graham
-Rebuttal
-Bernard J. (“Bunny”) Lasker
-Max Frankel
-Herbert E. Kaplow
-Jacob K. Javits
-Efron
	-Marriage
	[Clytia Chambers]
-Administration
-Henry A. Kissinger
-William L. Safire
-Leonard Garment
-Arthur F. Burns
-Herbert Stein
-Ezra Solomon
-Marina Von N. Whitman

Stephen B. Bull entered at an unknown time after 2:53 pm.

President’s schedule
	-John N. Mitchell

Bull left at an unknown time before 3:02 pm.

	Appointments
-Atomic Energy Commission [AEC]
	-Woman [Jane Hall]
		-The President’s meeting with James R. Schlesinger, January 31, 1972
		-Los Alamos
		-California

Conversation No. 663-4

Date:  February 1, 1972
Time:  3:02 pm - 4:00 pm
Location:  Oval Office

The President met with Ronald W. Reagan, John N. Mitchell and H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman; the White House photographer and members of the press were present at the beginning of the meeting.

	Appointments
		-Atomic Energy Commission [AEC]
			-Woman [Jane Hall]
				-Los Alamos
				-Symbolism
				-Supreme Court
				-Martha (Beall) Mitchell
				-Council of Economic Advisors [CEA]
					-Marina von N. Whitman
						-John von Neumann
				-John Lawrence, James R. Schlesinger
				-California

Haldeman left at an unknown time before 3:29 pm.

Domestic problems
	-Washington Post
-Congressional testimony
-Senate Finance Committee
-Welfare reform and Family Assistance Plan [FAP]
-Karl E. Mundt
-San Clemente
-President’s desire for full employment
	-Abraham A. Ribicoff
		-Trial cases
-Welfare
	-Russell B. Long

-Upcoming spending plans
	-Amount of savings
-C5A spending
-West Germany
-Japan
-Melvin R. Laird initiative
	-Reagan’s opinion
	-North Atlantic Treaty Organization [NATO]
	-Technical problems
		-Amount of allocations
	-Solutions
		-Rolls Royce Motors
			-Northup
-Employment benefits
-Arms race implications
	-Japan
-Laird role
-John B. Connally
	-Role
-Defensive posture
-NATO
	-Joseph M. Luns
-President’s instructions
	-Reagan’s upcoming conversation with [David] Kenneth Rush
	-Rush’s location

	Economy
-Concern of businessmen
	-Call to Reagan from Reed Kaiser [?] [sp?]
	-State of the Union address
	-Budget message
	-Justin W. Dart
	-Deficit spending
	-Depressive effect
	-Reagan’s opinion
	-Possible speech by the President
					-Compared to the President’s Vietnam peace proposal speech, January 25, 1972
-Economic outlook
-Deficits
	-Compared to Lyndon B. Johnson
-Inflation
-Full employment
-Demand for labor
-Expert view
-Budget
-Possible broadcast
	-Dart
	-1968 elections
	-Employment
	-Defense
			-President’s meeting with Reagan concerning People’s Republic of China [PRC]
				-Taiwan, Republic of China

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-Difficulty of deficit problem
-Dwight D. Eisenhower, 1958
	-Comparisons

	California Republican Assembly [CRA]
-Background
	-Conservatives
		-Number of members
-Executive board meeting
	-Harry S. Dent
-Forthcoming convention
	-Invitation to President
	-Scheduling
-Vice President Spiro T. Agnew
-[Forename unknown] Colbert [?]

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	Forthcoming Republican governors dinner
		-Reagan
-Nelson A. Rockefeller
-Linwood Holton
-William G. Milliken

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	Daniel J. Evans

Stephen B. Bull entered at an unknown time after 3:02 pm.

	The President’s schedule

Bull left at an unknown time before 3:29 pm.

	Dock strike
		-Congress
		-Harry Bridges
			-Labor division
			-Talk with the President in Oregon
			-Age
		-Federal Mediation and Conciliation Services

	Vietnam
		-President’s peace proposal
		-Proposal for resolutions before California legislation
			-American people
			-Media coverage
				-Press release

Evans, James D. Hodgson and George P. Shultz entered at 3:29 pm; the White House photographer was present at the beginning of the meeting.

Greetings

Dock strike
	-Legal aspects

Mitchell left at 3:29 pm.

Dock strike negotiations
-Coal mine

	[Photograph session]

	Dock strike negotiations
-Long range problems
	-Legislation from Congress
-Short range problems
	-Need for action
-Taft-Hartley Act
-Senate 
-Alan Cranston
	-President’s opinion
-Democratic presidential candidates
	-Organized labor
		-Taft-Hartley Act
-Teamsters Union
-Negotiation status
-Bridges
	-Length of negotiations
		-Possible union mergers
-Congressional action
-Comparison to the East Coat
-East compared to West Coast
	-“Continental Gap”
		-Possible settlement
			-Jurisdiction issue
			-Barry M. Goldwater
			-Elliot L. Richardson
			-Telegram
			-Motion picture studio strike
				-Hardhats
			-Reagan’s talk with Bridges
			-Compared to 1950 situation
-President’s concern
-Use in public statements
-Need for more attention to West
	-Recognition by Congress
-Washington
-California
-Oregon
-Hawaii
-Wyoming
-Utah
	-Possible impact on western states
-Agriculture
	-Wheat
	-Corn
-Congressional concern
-Press
-Possible action
	-Proposed legislation in the West
		-Cranston
		-Jack Williams of Arizona
-Hearings
-Possible formula
-Railroad Labor Act
-Taft-Hartley Act
	-Approach to Congress from President
-Inaction
	-Possible results of strikes
-Congressional vacation
	-Lincoln Day
-Mike McCormack
-Clark MacGregor
-Frank E. Evans
	-Railroad and trucking strikes
-Labor problems
-Economic effect of strike
	-Europe
-Great Britain
	-Possible problems
-Reagan’s experience
	-General Electric [GE]
		-1958
	-Motion picture studio strike

	Welfare
-Benefits of plan
-Medicaid
	-Ribicoff
		-Former role
			-Department of Health, Education, and Welfare [HEW]
		-Congressional pilot program
	-Eligibility
		-Disabled
		-Reagan’s opinion
	-Waivers
	-Cost of living increase
-Wages
	-Percentage
		-Evans’s comments

	Abortion
		-Law
		-Liberal ideas
		-Reasons
		-Medicaid
		-Number
		-Welfare rolls
		-Property rights of unborn

	Well wishes from the President
		-Forthcoming dinner

Reagan, et al. left at 4:00 pm.

Conversation No. 663-5

Date:  February 1, 1972
Time:  4:05 pm - 5:33 pm
Location:  Oval Office

The President met with H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman and John B. Connally.

President’s schedule

Connally schedule
-Testimony
	-George P. Shultz
		-Reaction
	-Taxes
-Pittsburgh trip
-Gen. Alexander M. Haig, Jr. conference
	-Timing

-Testimony

Haldeman left at an unknown time before 5:33 pm.

People’s Republic of China [PRC] and Union of Soviet Socialist Republics [USSR] trips
-Possible gifts for officials
-George Washington
-Indians
	-Medals
	-Suggestions by Connally
		-PRC and USSR
	-Chou En-lai, Mao Tse-tung, Leonid I. Brezhnev
	-Gold

Domestic programs
-Congressional relations
-Revenue sharing
	-Wilbur D. Mills
-Welfare
-Abraham A. Ribicoff role
-Blind benefits
-Political impact
-Social Security
-Political benefits
-Welfare
-Unemployment
-Public opinion
-Government reorganization
-Polls
	-Timing
-Re-election of the President
-Congressional leadership
-Mills
-John W. Byrnes, Keith Sebelius, Frank T. Bow
-Byrnes
-Ways and Means Committee
	-Al Ullman
	-James A. Burke
	-Unknown person
	-Dan Rostenkowski
	-Charles A. Vanik

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Connally’s conversation with Pittsburgh businessmen, January 31, 1972
-National Association of Manufacturer [NAM]
-US Chambers of Commerce
-Labor leaders
-George Meany
-Unknown person
-Unknown bankers
-John D. Harper, Bob Dorsey
-Connally’s schedule
	-Reception

Conservative compared to liberal philosophies
	-Connally’s opinion
	-Uniformity
	-Labels
		-Radicals

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Ronald L. Ziegler entered at 4:31 pm.

Press announcement
-Welfare reform
	-Meeting with governors
	-Ronald W. Reagan
	-Daniel J. Evans
-President’s instruction to Ziegler
	-Trial cases
	-Common ground with Congress
		-Reagan
	-California, New York
	-Ribicoff proposal

Ziegler left at 4:34 pm.

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Federal funding of campaigns
-Possible legislation
	-Timing
-Federal Communications Commission [FCC] compared to networks
-Congressional action
-Long term solution
-Use of network time
	-Prime time schedules
		-Advantages
-Nationalization
	-Great Britain

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Domestic politics
-Criticism of President
-Bob Eckhart
-Ways and Means Commission
-Unemployment charts
	-Republican administrations compared to Democratic ones
		-Lyndon B. Johnson
-John F. Kennedy
-Harry S Truman
-Dwight D. Eisenhower
	-Comparisons
-War economy
-Barber B. Conable, Jr.
	-World War II, Korean War and Vietnam War
-Care for people
-Wealthy members of President’s administration
	-Red Smith article
		-Aerospace industry
-Rich compared to poor
	-Possible friction from the public
-Wage criticism
-John N. Mitchell
-Maurice H. Stans
-Reagan
-Vice President Spiro T. Agnew
	-Possible role
-Congressional feeling
-Robert J. Dole
-Hugh Scott
-Gerald R. Ford
-Barry M. Goldwater
-Spokesmen for President’s view
	-Vietnam
	-Appearances
-John V. Lindsay
-Nelson A. Rockefeller
-Reagan
	-Support for the President
-Opposition efforts
	-Welfare, People’s Republic of China [PRC], class hatred
		-Connally
-Goldwater
	-Television presence
-The President’s forthcoming trip to the PRC
-Class distinctions

	Economy
-International monetary conditions
	-Status
		-Gold bill
		-European Economic Community [EEC] view
		-Connally’s previous conversation with unknown person
		-Canada
	-Canada
		-Cabinet
	-Forthcoming election
	-US efforts
		-Possible statement
			-Progress
-Pierre E. Trudeau
	-View of negotiations
-US public opinion
-State and Commerce Departments
-Excise taxes
-Budget deficit
	-World War II
-Alternatives
	-Congress
		-Amount of taxes
			-Stagnation
-Economic stimulus
	-Jobs
-1968 economy
-Inflation
-Unemployment
-Productivity Commission
-Public relations
-Connally’s meetings in Pittsburgh
	-Wage and price controls
	-Alternative
		-Inflation
	-US steel
		-Japan, West Germany
-Productivity Commission
	-Importance
	-Haldeman
	-Possible speech
	-Possible material for speechwriters
		-Connally
			-Transcripts
		-Class distinctions
-International monetary conditions
-Suspension of convertibility
	-Complexity of issue
	-Europe
	-Arthur F. Burns
		-Europe
	-US economic growth
		-Great Britain, France, Japan
	-The President’s August 15, 1971 speech
	-Burns
		-Recommended call to James Dewey Daane
-Wage and price controls
-Trade
-Connally’s testimony
	-Memorandum from Peter M. Flanigan
-Peter G. Peterson
	-Confirmation as Secretary of Commerce
		-Testimony
			-Timing
-William D. Eberle
	-Previous conversation with Connally
		-Flanigan
-Gold
-Surcharge
	-Connally’s previous with Eberle
		-State Department
		-Peterson
		-Testimony
		-Negotiations with Canada
			-Treasury Department
		-EEC
		-Commerce Department
-Concerns
	-[Unintelligible]
	-Henry A. Kissinger
	-Eberle
	-John Meyer
		-Possible appointment of businessman
		-Tariffs
			-Concern
			-Burns’s involvement
				-Quadriad
-The President’s previous meeting with unknown people
-Lack of business input
	-State of the economy
-Criticism
-Money supply
	-Banking
		-Long term rates
			-Reduction
-Inflation
-Treasury bonds
	-Interest
	-Long-term rates
		-Long term bonds
			-Percentage
-Big business and bankers
	-Budget
	-Investment tax credit
	-Wage and price controls
-1963-69 trends
	-Effect
	-Competition
	-Intimidation by statistics
		-Retail sales
		-Refusal to get too high or too low
-Connally view on the economy
	-Unemployment
		-Campaign issue
		-Percentage over the last few years
-Movement of inflation indicators
	-Effect on public
-Haves compared to have nots
	-PRC, USSR
	-Possible trade bloc
		-Latin America
-Flanigan, Peterson
	-Style
		-President’s opinion

	Personnel
		-Dwight D. Eisenhower
			-Understanding of people
		-Personal styles
			-Communication skills

	Appointments
		-Justice Department
			-Connally’s talk with Mitchell
		-Commerce Department
			-Peterson
		-Bureaucracy

	Government reorganization
		-1972 election
			-November 7, 1972
		-1968
		-Department of Housing and Urban Development [HUD]
		-Department of Health, Education, and Welfare [HEW]
		-Treasury Department
		-Justice Department
		-State Department

PRC trip
	-1968

USSR trip
	-Timing

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Connally left at 5:33 pm.

Conversation No. 663-6

Date:  February 1, 1972
Time:  Unknown between 5:33 pm and 5:35 pm
Location:  Oval Office

The President met with Stephen B. Bull.

Meeting with Ronald L. Ziegler
	-Location

Bull left at an unknown time before 5:35 pm.

Conversation No. 663-7

Date:  February 1, 1972
Time:  5:35 pm - 5:36 pm
Location:  Oval Office

The President met with Ronald L. Ziegler.

President’s schedule
-Recent meeting with Ronald W. Reagan
-Ziegler’s press conference comments
	-Welfare reform
-Reagan
	-Finance Committee
	-Experimentation
		-Waivers in California, New York
-Reagan, Daniel J. Evans
	-Dock strike

Ziegler left at 5:36 pm.

Conversation No. 663-8

Date:  February 1, 1972
Time:  5:36 pm - 6:25 pm
Location:  Oval Office

The President met with H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman.

Governors’ dinner
-Harry S. Dent memorandum
-Benefits
-Support for President
-Speech schedule
-President’s view
	-Drawbacks
	-Bryce N. Harlow [?], John N. Mitchell
	-Agenda
		-Long hours
-Previous meeting
-Usefulness
	-Red Room
-California Republicans
-Ronald W. Reagan
-Interests
-Union of Soviet Socialist Republics [UUSR]
-People’s Republic of China [PRC]

PRC trip
-George Washington
-Gifts
-Types
	-Comparisons
-USSR 
-John B. Connally
	-Symbolism
-Gold

	-Expense
	-Benefits
	-US mint
-Duplication in bronze
-Reciprocal dinner
-Chou En-lai
-Mao Tse-tung

Connally
-Michael J. Mansfield
	-Breakfast
		-Timing
-Trip to Florida
	-Timing
		-Lincoln Birthday
	-George [A. Smathers?]
-Trade
	-Public relations
		-Peter G. Peterson

Peter M. Flanigan
	-Possible meeting

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	White House staff and cabinet
		-Briefings
			-John D. Ehrlichman
-Henry A. Kissinger role
	-Previous conversation with Ehrlichman
-Governors meetings
	-Value
	-Connally
	-Cabinet members
		-[Thomas] Woodrow Wilson and Theodore Roosevelt
	-Congress
	-Feeling of responsibility
	-Effect on their job
		-Request for balance
-Need for toughness
-Current situation
-Performances of President’s advisors
	-Haldeman’s view of situation
-Kissinger
-Flanigan
-Peterson
	-Testimony
-William P. Rogers
-Kissinger
	-Demeanor
		-Attitude towards Rogers [?]
-President’s demeanor
	-Handling of complaints of White House staff
	-John A. Volpe
-Morale
-Dwight D. Eisenhower view
	-Comparisons of administrations
		-Rose Mary Woods
-Shortcomings of administration
-Connally
	-Chicago
-Kissinger
-Rogers
	-Cambodia

President’s schedule
	-Governor’s dinner
-Breakfast meeting
	-Timing

	White House staff and cabinet
		-President’s instructions
			-Haldeman’s upcoming conversation with Connally
		-Charles W. Colson
		-Congress
		-Rogers
			-State Department
		-Peterson
			-Trade memorandum
			-Middle East, West Germany
			-Possible handling
				-Instructions about the future, public relations

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-Connally

	Post-election personnel changes
		-Anti-trust Division of Department of Justice [DOJ]
			-University of Michigan professor
				-Frederic V. Malek
			-Ehrlichman
-Cabinet
	-Resignations
-Elliot L. Richardson
-Connally
-James D. Hodgson
-Volpe
-George W. Romney
-Earl L. Butz
	-Clifford M. Hardin
-Peterson
-Rogers
-Melvin R. Laird
-Connally
-Caspar W. (“Cap”) Weinberger
-Richard G. Kleindienst
-George P. Shultz
-Donald H. Rumsfeld
-Unknown person
-Agency heads
	-Russell E. Train

	The President’s schedule
-Governors

	White House staff and cabinet
-Clark MacGregor
-Press conference
-Volpe
-Peterson

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Haldeman and the President left at 6:25 pm.