Conversation No. 67-1

Date: July 30, 1971
Time: 9:37 am - unknown before 10:23 am
Location: Cabinet Room

The President met with Stephen Ailes, John P. (AJack@) Hiltz, Jr., Charles Luna, George P. Shultz, James D. Hodgson, John A. Volpe, General George A. Lincoln, Willie J. Usery, Jr., Arnold R. Weber, and Paul W. McCracken

	Labor disputes
		-Railroad strike
			-Effect
				-New York Times article of July 30, 1971
				-Public attitude
			-The administration=s attitude
				-Belief in collective bargaining
				-Railroads
					-The private versus public sector
					-Difference from other industries
						-Legal restrictions
				-Effect of strike
					-Timing
					-Impact on unions
						-Public reaction
					-Government intervention
		-Responsibilities of labor and management
		-Effect on economy
		-Railroad industry problems
			-Compared to other countries
				-Government-operated railways
			-Public reaction
			-Possible Congressional reaction
		-Effect
			-Illinois
		-Settlement
			-Hiltz
			-Obstacles
				-Negotiating by committee
		-Administration efforts at resolution
			-Usery, Hodgson
			-Luna, Hiltz
			-Collective bargaining
				-Perceptions of issues
					-Railway engineers
			-Purpose of meeting
			-Meetings of railroad presidents
			-Effect on other industries
				-Steel industry

	[General conversation/Unintelligible]

Ronald L. Ziegler entered at an unknown time after 9:37 am

	Introduction of participants to Ziegler
		-Administration statement

The President left at 9:54 am

	[General conversation/Unintelligible]

Ailes, et al. left at an unknown time before 10:23 am

Conversation No. 67-2

Date: Unknown between July 30 and August 5, 1971
Time: Unknown between 9:54 am, July 30 and 10:10 am, August 5, 1971
Location: Cabinet Room

An unknown man and unknown students met

	Cabinet Room
		-Uses
		-Chairs
		-President=s flag
		-The US flag
		-The President=s helicopter

The unknown people left an unknown time before 10:10 am, August 5, 1971

Conversation No. 67-3

Date: Unknown between July 30 and August 5, 1971
Time: Unknown between 9:54 am, July 30 and 10:10 am, August 5, 1971
Location: Cabinet Room

An unknown woman and unknown people met

	Cabinet Room
		-Chairs
			-Presentation to departing officials
			-Table
				-Comparison to previous tables

	Unknown man
		-Writing book
			-Women=s liberation
		-Background

	Rose Garden

	Chandeliers

The unknown people left at an unknown time before 10:10 am, August 5, 1971

Conversation No. 67-4

Date: Unknown between July 30 and August 5, 1971
Time: Unknown between 9:54 am, July 30 and 10:10 am, August 5, 1971
Location: Cabinet Room

Unknown people met

	Cabinet Room
		-Chairs
			-Plaques
			-The President=s chair
		-Uses
			-Policy decisions
				-Role of the President
		-Maintenance of room
			-Staff
		-Fireplace
		-Floor
			-Thomas Jefferson pattern

The unknown people left at an unknown time before 10:10 am, August 5, 1971

Conversation No. 67-5

Date: Unknown between July 30 and August 5, 1971
Time: Unknown between 9:54 am, July 30 and 10:10 am, August 5, 1971
Location: Cabinet Room

Unknown women met

	[Unintelligible]

The unknown women left at an unknown time before 10:10 am, August 5, 1971

Conversation No. 67-6

Date: Unknown between July 30 and August 5, 1971
Time: Unknown between 9:54 am, July 30 and 10:10 am, August 5, 1971
Location: Cabinet Room

Unknown people met

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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1
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[Duration:  15s  ]

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The unknown people left at an unknown time before 10:10 am, August 5, 1971

Conversation No. 67-7

Date: Unknown between July 30 and August 5, 1971
Time: Unknown between 9:54 am, July 30 and 10:10 am, August 5, 1971
Location: Cabinet Room

Unknown people met

	Cabinet Room
		-Chairs
			-Secretary of State

The unknown people left an an unknown time before 10:10 am, August 5, 1971

Conversation No. 67-9

Date: Unknown between July 30 and August 5, 1971
Time: Unknown between 9:54 am, July 30 and 10:10 am, August 5, 1971
Location: Cabinet Room

Unknown men met

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[Duration:  7m 30s  ]

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The unknown men left at an unknown time before 10:10 am, August 5, 1971

Conversation No. 67-10

Date: Unknown between July 30 and August 5, 1971
Time: Unknown between 9:54 am, July 30 and 10:10 am, August 5, 1971
Location: Cabinet Room

Unknown people met

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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1
[Non-historical]
[Duration:  1m 48s  ]

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The unknown people left at an unknown time before 10:10 am, August 5, 1971

Conversation No. 67-11

Date: August 5, 1971
Time: 10:10 am - 11:55 am
Location: Cabinet Room

Vice President Spiro T. Agnew met with William P. Rogers, John B. Connally, Melvin R. Laird, John N. Mitchell, J. Philip Campbell, Maurice H. Stans, James D. Hodgson, John G. Veneman, George W. Romney, John A. Volpe, George P. Shultz, Robert H. Finch, Donald H. Rumsfeld, George H. W. Bush, Raymond K. Price, Jr., Herbert G. Klein, Ronald L. Ziegler, Alexander P. Butterfield, and Robert J. Dole

	[General conversation/Unintelligible]

The President entered at 10:10 am

	[General conversation]

	Agenda
		-Foreign policy

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	US foreign policy

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	Foreign policy
		-Vice President=s trip
			-Length
			-Countries visited
				-Korea, Singapore, Kuwait, Saudi Arabia, Ethiopia, Kenya, Democratic Republic of the Congo, Morocco, Spain, Portugal

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[Duration:  1m 20s  ]

	VICE PRESIDENT’S TRIP

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	National economy
		-Connally
			-Statements
				-AFace the Nation@
		-Public=s perceptions
			-1961-63 unemployment statistics
				-Rate
				-The news media=s presentation
			-Unemployment
				-Connally=s statement about rate
					-Post-World War II statistics
						-1955, 1956
						-President John F. Kennedy=s administration
							-Lack of criticism
		-Republicans
			-Need to defend administration
		-News media
			-Issues
				-Vietnam War
				-China initiative
				-Economy
		-Recovery
		-Peacetime prosperity
			-Impact of veterans unemployment
		-Economic considerations
			-Academic, business spokesmen
				Impact of foreign policy issues
			-Need for candor
			-Congressional action
		-Economic statistics
			-Wages, savings
			-Automobile sales
			-Consumer spending
			-Leading indicators
			-Retail sales figures
				-Compared to 1970
			-Inflation
				-Deflation
			-Income
			-Savings rate
			-Durable goods
				-Rate of sales
			-Machine tool industry
			-Housing starts
			-General picture
			-Interest rate increase

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	Trade

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		-Reactions to economic picture
			-Lack of support
		-The President=s actions
			-Compared to China initiative
			-Need for support in economic action
		-Economic statistics
			-Per capita income
				-Effect of inflation
				-1965-70 figures
					-Lack of gains
						-Compared to 1971
				-1966-68 figures
		-Action needed
			-Support for the President
			-Business in the 1950's

[A transcript of the following portion of this conversation was prepared under court order in May 1985 for Special Access [SA] 77, Weber v. General Motors Corporation.  The National Archives and Records Administration produced this transcript.  The National Archives does not guarantee its accuracy.]

[End of transcript]

			-Business leaders
			-Effect of inflation
			-Administration policy makers
				-View of action taken
			-Significance of present decisions
				-Importance of the President=s re-election
			-Lockheed
			-Steel and railroad industry
		-Major areas of concern
			-Inflation
			-Wage-price situation

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	Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development

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			-Unemployment
				-Effect of Vietnam war
				-Compared to previous administrations
				-World War II, Korea
					-Franklin D. Roosevelt=s administration
				-Goal
			-Retail sales and inventory figures
			-Upward trends
			-Psychological effect
				-Critics
					-Media
					-Democrats
						-Issues for criticism of the administration
							-Busing
				-Need for offense
					-Comparisons to past statistics
			-Unemployment
				-Goal
				-Congressional inaction
					-George H. Mahon
				-Teenagers
				-House Resolution [HR] 1 welfare reform legislation
				-Science and engineering
				-Veterans
			-Inflation
				-Possibility of controls
					-Arthur F. Burns= view
					-John Kenneth Galbraith=s plan for permanent wage and price controls
				-Negotiations with industry
					-Secretary of Labor
					-Government efforts
					-Steel industry
				-Wage-price board
					-Announcement
					-Enforcement
						-Difficulties
					-Dangers
					-Concept of wage and price control
						-Need for voluntary action
						-Need for temporary measures
					-President=s World War II experiences
						-Office of Price Administration
					-Economic trends
					-Need for activism
						-Shultz, Paul W. McCracken, Connally, Burns
				-Unemployment
					-Need for solution in peacetime setting
				-Galbraith
				-Connally=s statement
				-Need for Executive Branch action
					-Need for offensive
					-Congress
					-Defensive action
					-Programs
		-Government agencies
			-Wage increases
			-Employees
				-Average grade levels
					-Statistics
					-Effect on budget
				-Budget action
				-Forthcoming meetings
			-Development of programs
				-Need to halt grade escalation
					-Department of Health, Education, and Welfare [HEW]
					-Department of Housing and Urban Development [HUD]
					-Department of State
					-Department of the Treasury
					-Department of Justice
					-Reduction in Force [RIF]
						-Department of Defense
							-Removal of low-level officials
								-Effect of tenure
							-Air Force
							-Navy
								-Comparison of departments
						-The White House staff
							-Need for action

The President left at 11:57 am

	[General conversation/Unintelligible]

Recording was cut off at 11:57 am

Conversation No. 67-13

Date: August 5, 1971
Time: Unknown after 11:57 pm until 12:35 pm
Location: Cabinet Room

Robert H. Finch met with Frederic V. Malek, Patricia R. Hitt, Antonio F. Rodriguez, Louie Cespedes, Clifford M. Hardin, Maurice H. Stans, James D. Hodgson, Elliot L. Richardson, George W. Romney, John B. Connally, John N. Mitchell, Frank C. Carlucci, Thomas S. Kleppe, William H. Brown, III, Robert E. Hampton, Eugene A. Marin, Edward M. Yturri, Ted F. Martinez, Ignacio E. Lozano, Jr., Edgar A. Buttari, Manuel R. Giberga, Jorge E. Tristani, Manuel A. Gonalez, Hilda A. Hidalgo, William C. Oldaker, and Philip Sanchez

	[General conversation/Unintelligible]

The President and Dr. Henry M. Ramirez entered at 12:13 pm

	Establishment of the Cabinet Committee for Opportunity for the Spanish-Speaking [CCOSS]
		-Statutory requirements
		-Constituency
		-Puerto Ricans, Spanish-speaking people, Chicanos, Cubans
		-Local area meetings
		-San Francisco meeting
			-Participants
		-Aims
			-Increased Hispanic employment in government
			-Bi-lingual program
			-Law Enforcement Assistance Administration [LEAA]
				-Mitchell

	Hispanics
		-Need for increased assistance
			-Government
		-Publicizing aims
			-Effect on Congressional action
			-Effect on government agencies
		-Compared to other groups
		-Need for equal opportunity
		-President=s experience
		-Need for effective lobby
		-Employment
			-Promotion to higher positions
				-Government agencies
					-Agriculture, Treasury, and Justice Departments
						-J. Philip Campbell, Mitchell
				-Importance of US productivity
					-Economic trends

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	Foreign competition

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					-The future of the United States
						-Need for increased development
						-Human resources
						-Opportunities for Hispanics
		-Government responsibilities
			-Compared to private sector

	Introduction of new CCOSS advisory council members

	Hispanics
		-Need for continued work by CCOSS

Recording was cut off at an unknown time before 12:35 pm