Conversation No. 712-1

Date:  April 18, 1972
Time:  3:56 pm - 4:56 pm
Location:  Oval Office

The President met with John D. Ehrlichman.

Greetings

Busing
-Ehrlichman's approach
-Article by Alexander M. Bickel in New Republic
-Constitutionality
-Impact on Congress
-Circulation among opinion makers
-Robert H. Bork
-Press conference in Washington
-Press conference
-Necessity
-Controversy
-Irene McCabe
-Intended action
-Position
-National Action Group
	-Pontiac, Michigan
-Publicity
-Article in National Journal
-Reprints
-Circulation
-Authority
-McCabe
	-Article
	-Rally
		-Timing
-Analysis
-Topics

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-Bickel
-Liberalism
-Opposition
-Bork
-Ivy League background
-[Charles A. Wright]
	-Texas
-Willingness to speak out
-Southerners
-Mobilization
-Disbandment of bi-racial committees
-Edward L. Morgan
-Court cases
-Reopening
-Impact
-Richard G. Kleindienst
-Moratorium
-Passage in Congress
-Congress
-The President's opposition to busing
-Publicity
-Difference from George C. Wallace
-Sympathy for blacks
-Political benefits
-Support of middle-of-the-roaders
-Challenge to Congress
-Moratorium
-Constitutional amendment
-Political advantages
-Political support
-Answer
-Ehrlichman's draft
-Patrick J. Buchanan
-Burden on Congress
-Problems for children
-Article in National Journal
-Quality of article
-List of cities
-Detroit
-Indianapolis
-Denver
-Richmond
-Suburbs
-Administration interventions
-Publicity
-Trips to communities
-L[ouis] Patrick Gray, III
-Grand Rapids, Michigan
-Ehrlichman
-Morgan
-Value
-Arrangements
-Gray
-Kleindienst
-Publicity
-Ehrlichman's trip
-Statement
-Bork
-Legal arguments
-Wright
	-Texas lawyer
-Joseph T. Sneed
-Duke University
-Support for the President
-Recruitment
-Judgeship positions
-Attorney General

International Telephone and Telegraph [ITT] case
-Debates
-Advantages
-Peter M. Flanigan testimony

Busing
-National Journal article
-The President's review
-Analysis of congressional voting records
-Changes
-Administration opposition
-Impact on communities
-Divisiveness
-Supporters of busing
-Liberals
-Time
-Reasons
-Attacks on white middle class suburbanites
-Children's schools
-Investigation of journalists
-Results
-Use in press conference
-Journalists
-Residences
-Suburbs
	-Compared to Washington, DC
-Robert P. Novak
-Kleindienst
-Children's schools
-Democratic candidates
-Henry M. (“Scoop”) Jackson
-Children in public school
-Children
-Schools
-Publicity

Crime
-Washington Post
-Ehrlichman's briefing
-H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman
-Time
-Publicity
-Business leaders in Washington, DC
-Meeting
-Impact of crime
-Washington, DC
-Level
-1968 campaign
-Decline
-Credit for administration
-The President's law and order policies
-Criticism
-Law Enforcement Assistance Administration [LEAA]
-Funds for Washington, DC
-Funds for localities
-Uses
-Illegal drugs
-Issue for Vice President Spiro T. Agnew
-Campaign

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-Political benefits
	-Law enforcement and rehabilitation
	-Pushers

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-Fact sheet
-Drafts
-Distribution
	-Agnew
-Discussion and publicity
-Republicans
-Material for speeches
-Publicity
	-Arrangements

Economy
-Latest figures
-Inventory
-Backlog of demand
-Release
-Progress
-Staff meeting
-Herbert Stein
-Ezra Solomon
-Optimism
-Consumer Price Index [CPI]
-Last month's figures
-Wholesale food prices
-Food prices
-Political issue
-Life magazine
-Meat
-Cheaper cuts
-Chicken
-Complaints from consumers
-Complaints
-Substance
-Inevitability
-Depression of 1930's
-Publicity
-Life
-Timing
-Decline
-Jawboning
-Summer decline
-Earl L. Butz
-Policies
-Trip to Soviet Union
-Statements
-Criticism
-Future statements
-Benefits for Farm Belt
-Work with administration
-Political sensitivities
	-Kenneth R. Cole, Jr.
	-Ehrlichman
-Work with farmers
-Success
	-Ehrlichman’s trip to Denver
		-Article
	-Butz’s talk with the President
-Complaints
-Current mood
-Improvement
-Cattlemen
-Prosperity
		-Milk producers
-Jawboning
-John B. Connally
-Price Commission
	-Dr. C. Jackson (“Dan”) Grayson, Jr.
-Benefits
-Shoe prices
-Jawboning by Peter G. Peterson
-Level
-Price of hides
-Scarcity
-Jawboning
-Jawboning
-Timing with election
-Effectiveness
-Food prices
-Decline
-Market chains
-Safeway
-Ads
-Fear of controls
-World War II
-Cattle growers

Other issues
-Crime
-Drugs
-Busing
-Prices

Taxes
-Property taxes
-School funding
-Advisory Committee on Intergovernmental Relations [ACIR]
-Ehrlichman's meeting with Connally
-Option paper
-Connally's advice
-Debt ceiling
-Testimony
-Connally, George P. Shultz and Stein
-Loopholes
-Connally
-Wilbur D. Mills
-Hearings on Health bill
-Tax bill
-Ways and Means Committee
-Revenue sharing
-House Resolution [HR] 1
-Location in Congress
-Senate Finance Committee
-Confusion
-Republicans
-Meeting at White House
-Caucus
-Opposition to Russell B. Long's changes
-Long's proposals
-Costs
-Criticism of the President by Long

ITT case
-Flanigan testimony
-Conditions
-Samuel J. Ervin, Jr.’s reaction
-Long's reaction
-Reasons

Revenue-sharing
-Senate Finance Committee
-Passage
-Likelihood to be defeated
-Shultz and Mills
-The President's efforts
-Appreciation by local officials

Taxation
-Treasury Department
-Connally
-White Paper
-Opposition to property taxes
-Populism
-Congressional resistance
-Tax reform
-Democratic voting records
-Publicity
-Connally as spokesman
-Speeches
-Policy of administration
-Property tax relief and relief for parochial schools
-Value-added tax [VAT]
-Administration credit
-Alternatives
-Administration study
-Wallace telegram
-Connally's answer
-Challenge for answers
-Loopholes
-Connally's views
-Abolition
-Problems
	-Mortgage deductions
	-Charitable exemptions
-Capital gains
-Abolition
-Impact
-Mortgage deductions
-Edmund S. Muskie's position
-Hubert H. Humphrey
-Democratic opposition
-Charity, home and family deductions
-Gas tax deduction
-Sales tax deduction
-US tax system
-Tax inequities
-Congressional responsibility
-Candidates
-Wallace

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	Budget
		-Frank L. Rizzo
-Federal money for Philadelphia
-Caspar W. (“Cap”) Weinberger
-Defense funds
-Telephone call from the President
-Federal money
-Law enforcement
-Narcotics control
-Child care
-Benefits for Rizzo

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	Jews
-Golda Meir
-Israelis

Edward M. Kennedy
-Bill on Chappaquiddick
	-Staff work
-Political prospects
-Bill on Chappaquiddick
-Chappaquiddick
-Press reports
	-Denver
-Conviction
-Driver's license
-Grand Jury proceedings
-Public interest
-First reports
-The President's location
-Ehrlichman's location
-Kennedy's speech
-The President's and Ehrlichman's locations
-Failure
-Richard N. Goodwin
-Public disbelief
-Compared with Checkers Speech
-Failure
-Lack of validity

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Busing
-Administration position
-Approach
-The President's daughters
-Integrated schools
	-Sidwell Friends
-The President and Thelma C. (“Pat”) Nixon
	-Integrated schools
-Whittier schools
-Quaker tradition
-Smith and Finch Colleges
	-Julie Nixon Eisenhower
-The President's decision
-Publicity
-Ways to improve education
-Parental discretion
-George H. Gallup poll results
-Opposition
-Blacks
-Opposition
-Candidates' supporters
	-Wallace, Nixon, Muskie
-Views on busing
-Regional breakdown
-Public response
-Wide agreement on opposition
-Experts
-Uncertainty about benefits
-Parental discretion
-Racialism
-Parents versus courts and sociologists
-Administration position
-Experts

Ehrlichman left at 4:56 pm.

	Conversation No. 712-2

Date:  April 18, 1972
Time:  Unknown between 4:56 pm and 5:00 pm
Location:  Oval Office

The President met with Manolo Sanchez and Alexander P. Butterfield.

Sanchez left at an unknown time before 5:00 pm.

H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman
-Location
-John B. Connally

[Signing of document]
-Housing issue

Butterfield left at an unknown time before 5:00 pm.

	Conversation No. 712-3

Date:  April 18, 1972
Time:  Unknown between 4:56 pm and 5:00 pm
Location:  Oval Office

The President talked with the White House operator.

[See Conversation No. 23-22]

	Conversation No. 712-4

Date:  April 18, 1972
Time:  Unknown between 4:56 pm and 5:03 pm
Location:  Oval Office

The President met with Stephen B. Bull.

Sequoia
-Availability
-Arrangements

The President talked with Clark MacGregor between 5:00 and 5:01 pm.

[Conversation No. 712-4A]

[See Conversation No. 23-23]

[End of telephone conversation]

Sequoia arrangements
-Time
-Dinner
-Sailing

The President left at an unknown time before 5:03 pm.

Alexander P. Butterfield entered at an unknown time after 5:01 pm.

The President's schedule
-Sequoia trip
-Time
-Telephone call

Bull and Butterfield left at an unknown time before 5:03 pm.

	Conversation No. 712-5

Date:  April 18, 1972
Time:  Unknown between 5:01 pm and 5:03 pm
Location:  Oval Office

The President talked with an unknown person.

Cancellation of buzzer request signal

	Conversation No. 712-6

Date:  April 18, 1972
Time:  Unknown between 5:01 pm and 5:33 pm
Location:  Oval Office

The President met with Manolo Sanchez.

The President's schedule
-Dinner on Sequoia
-Departure time
-Sequoia

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CLARK MACGREGOR ENTERED AT 5:03 PM.

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Sanchez left at an unknown time before 5:32 pm.

ITT [International Telephone and Telegraph] case
-Senate committee
-Session
-Republican senators
-Samuel J. Ervin, Jr.
-Help for administration
-Robert C. Byrd
-Cooperation
-Democrats
-Byrd's role
-John V. Tunney and Edward M. Kennedy faction
-Charles McC. Mathias, Jr.
-Vote
-Trip to conference in Oxford, England
-Vote
-James O. Eastland, Ervin, and Byrd
-Mathias
-Majority
-Byrd
-Paul J. Fannin
-William P. Rogers briefing
-Meeting with Ervin
-Meeting with Byrd and Ervin
					-Alignment with Kennedy, Tunney, Philip A. Hart, Birch E. Bayh, Jr. and Quentin N. Burdick
-Likely vote
-Testimony
-MacGregor's conversations with Edwin Reinecke and Edgar Gillenwaters
-Jack Gleason
-Order of appearance
-Gillenwaters
-Position
-Availability
-Harry D. Steward
-Questioning
-Gillenwaters
-Peter M. Flanigan
-Preparation
-John N. Mitchell
-Eastland
-MacGregor
						-Roman L. Hruska, Edward J. Gurney and Marlow W. Cook
-Questions by Kennedy and Tunney
-Eastland rulings
-Republican objections to questions
-Executive privilege
-Henry A. Kissinger
-Discretion
-Executive privileges
-Pitfalls
-Coaching by MacGregor
-Problems
-Questioning
-Answers
-Tone
-Coaching
						-H. Chapman (“Chappie”) Rose, Bryce N. Harlow and MacGregor
-Questions to avoid
-Background on Richard W. McLaren policies
-Administration disaffection
-Legitimacy of antitrust suits
-Arthur F. Burns
-ITT Company
-Growth under John F. Kennedy and Lyndon B. Johnson
-Rate
-Publicity of figures
-Acquisitions
-Figures
-Inaction
-Administration's record

Sanchez entered at an unknown time after 5:03 pm.

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Sanchez left at an unknown time before 5:32 pm.

ITT case
-ITT Company
-Growth
-Administration's record on antitrust
-Compared with Johnson and John F. Kennedy
-Antitrust
-Debate in administration
-Acknowledgement
-Justice Department
-John B. Connally and Maurice H. Stans
-Consent decree
-Harold S. Geneen
-Protests against Administration policies
-Publicity
-Flanigan testimony
-Justice Department decision
-Defense
-Concern for economy
-Government agencies
							-Secretaries of Treasury, Commerce, Council of Economic Advisors [CEA]
-Attacks on business
-Administration policies
-Points to make
-Criterion of case
-ITT windfall
-Role of unknown White House aide
-Work with lobbyists
-Meetings with journalists
-Suit against networks
-Lobbyists with administration
-Labor unions
-Universities
-Black caucus
-Flanigan testimony
-ITT settlement
-Justification
-Bigness of business
-Antitrust cases and lobbyists
-Postal rates
-Media protests to White House
-Newspaper mergers
-Protests
-Administration's openness
-Administration handling
-Referral to departments
-Conglomerate decision
-Settlement
-McLaren and Erwin N. Griswold roles
-Johnson and John F. Kennedy inaction
-Administration counterattacks
-Important questions
-Malfeasance
-Sheraton Corporation of America
-Geneen
-Contribution
-Repercussions
-Flanigan testimony
-Impulsiveness
-Edward Kennedy and Tunney
-Intellects

Edward M. Kennedy
	-Harvard University
	-Examination
	-Social life

	[Unintelligible]

MacGregor's activities
-Trip to Minneapolis
-Republican group
-National Alliance of Businessmen [NAB] breakfast
-Speech
-Turnout
-Meeting with President on April 10, 1972

Edward Kennedy
-Bill on Chappaquiddick
-The President’s talk with John D. Ehrlichman
-Congressional Record
-MacGregor's conversation with William E. Minshall
-Public interest
-Origin of bill
-Size of staff
-Reasons

Charles W. Colson

Vietnam
-Democratic critics
-Counterattack
-Vulnerability

Kleindienst
-Confirmation
-National Broadcasting Corporation [NBC] question for MacGregor

Vietnam
-Bombing
-NBC question from MacGregor
	-Risks
		-Hanoi
		-Haiphong
	-Results
	-Accomplishments
						-Middle East, Soviet Union, Berlin and People's Republic of China [PRC]
-Critics
-Handling
-1800 election
-Thomas Jefferson's identification with France
-Near defeat
-John Adams
-Identification
-Federalist mistakes
-Alien and Sedition Acts
-Jeffersons' narrow margin of victory
-Identification with enemy
-Johnson
-North Vietnamese invasion
-Betrayal of American soldiers
-Lack of criticism of North Vietnam
-William P. Rogers's testimony
-MacGregor's sister-in-law and brother
-Reaction
-Handling
-MacGregor's call
-Encouragement
-The President
-Rogers
-Reluctance to fight
-Melvin R. Laird

ITT case
-Senate committee
-Termination of hearings
-Time
-Executive session
-Edward Kennedy and Tunney
-Criticism of Ervin
-Testimony
-Flanigan
-William E. Timmons
-John D. Ehrlichman
-Edward Kennedy and Tunney
-Attack on Ervin
-Counterattack
-Cook
-Gurney
-Hawkishness
-Report from Wallace H. Johnson
-Conversation with Hruska
-Reinecke's and Gillenwaters's testimony
-Gleason testimony
-Avoidance
-Delays
-Gillenwaters
-Objections
-Hruska
-Testimony
-Steward
-Substitutes
-Reinecke and Gillenwaters
-MacGregor's statement

Senate
-Irresponsibility
-"War Powers" debate
-Lyndon Johnson's tenure
-Foreign Relations Committee
-Reaction to fund cut-off bill
-George D. Aiken
-Age

MacGregor
-Political experience
-Work with the President
-1972 election

Senate
-Work as a body

Stephen B. Bull entered at 5:32 pm.

-Departure of senators

MacGregor left at 5:32 pm.

The President's schedule

Bull left at an unknown time before 5:33 pm.

	Conversation No. 712-7

Date:  April 18, 1972
Time:  Unknown between 5:32 pm and 5:33 pm
Location:  Oval Office

The President talked with the White House operator.

[See Conversation No. 23-24]

	Conversation No. 712-8

Date:  April 18, 1972
Time:  5:33 pm - 5:34 pm
Location:  Oval Office

The President talked with Julie Nixon Eisenhower.

[See Conversation No. 23-25; one item has been withdrawn from the conversation]

	Conversation No. 712-9

Date:  April 18, 1972
Time:  Unknown between 5:35 pm and 11:59 pm
Location:  Oval Office

Unknown persons [Secret Service agents] met.

The President's schedule
-Location

	[Unintelligible]

The conversation was cut off at an unknown time before 11:59 pm.