Conversation No. 102-8/103-1

Date:  June 13, 1972
Time:  Unknown after 8:01 am until 9:39 am
Location:  Cabinet Room

The President met with Vice President Spiro T. Agnew, George P. Shultz, Charls E. Walker, Hugh Scott, Robert P. Griffin, Margaret Chase Smith, Gordon L. Allott, Norris Cotton, Gerald R. Ford, Leslie C. Arends, John B. Anderson, John J. Rhodes, Robert C. (ABob@) Wilson, H. Allen Smith, Samuel L. Devine, Richard H. Poff, Barber B. Conable, Jr., Robert J. Dole, General Alexander M. Haig, Jr., Clark MacGregor, Peter M. Flanigan, Kenneth R. Cole, Jr., William E. Timmons, Harry S. Dent, Herbert G. Klein, Patrick J. Buchanan, Casper W. (ACap@) Weinberger, Richard K. Cook, Thomas C. Korologos, and Ronald L. Ziegler
[Conversation continues from Cabinet Room 102-8.  A portion of this conversation was not recorded while the tape was changed; recording begins while the conversation is in progress]

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[Personal Returnable]
[Duration:  9m 59s  ]

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	Adjournment

	Legislative strategy
		-Scott
		-Ford

	[General conversation]

The President, et al. left at 9:39 am

Conversation No. 103-3

Date:  Unknown between June 13 and June 22, 1972
Time:  Unknown between 9:39 am, June 13 and 5:20 pm, June 22, 1972
Location:  Cabinet Room

Unknown people [repairmen?] met
[Recording begins while the conversation is in progress]

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[Non-historical]
[Duration:  3m 56s  ]

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Recording ends at an unknown time before 5:20 pm, June 22, 1972

Conversation No. 103-4

Date:  June 22, 1972
Time:  5:20 pm - 6:28 pm
Location:  Cabinet Room

The President met with Charles Batson, Charles Crutchfield, Daniel R. Eaton, John Fetzer, James S. Gilmore, Jr., Larry Israel, John Kluge, Charles S. Mechem, Bill Michaels, John T. Murphy, Ancil Paine, John Poor, Ward Quaal, Leonard Reinsch, Bill Shaw, Reid L. Shaw, Robert Slaughter, Franklin C. Snyder, Egmont Sonderling, E. R. Vadeboncoeur, M.C. Waters, Fred Weber, Robert Wells, Richard Chapin, Herbert G. Klein, Ronald L. Ziegler, Peter M. Flanigan, John D. Ehrlichman, George W. Romney, Charles W. Colson, Richard A. Moore, Alvin Snyder, Clay T. (ATom@) Whitehead, and Dean Burch

	Greetings
		-McGraw-Hill Co.
		-Klein
		-Gilmore of Gilmore Broadcasting
			-Andy Granatelli
		-President of Mexico
			-Press
				-Unknown woman journalist
		-Commission on Baseball
		-Unknown person
			-New York
			-Cleveland
				-Baseball
		-Crutchfield
		-[General conversation/Unintelligible]
		-Mayor Louie Welch
			-Association of Mayors
				-President=s phone call
			-Astros

	Request for group to be seated

The White House photographer entered at an unknown time after 5:20 pm

	Photograph session

The White House photographer left at an unknown time before 6:28 pm

	Opening of meeting

	Reason for meeting
		-Media requests
			-Networks
				-News programs
					-Vice President Spiro T. Agnew
				-Conflicts with local broadcasters
			-Klein
			-Flanigan

	Private enterprise system
		-President=s views
		-Communications industry
			-Newspaper, radio, television

			-Television
				-Comparison with abroad
				-Shortcomings
				-Quality
			-Public broadcasting
				-Support from staff

	Format for meeting
		-Flanigan

	Domestic licensing processes
		-Federal Communications Commission [FCC]
			-Renewal objections
		-Federal Trade Commission [FTC]
			-Advertising
		-FCC, FTC relationship

	Brand names
		-Moscow, Union of Soviet Socialist Republics [USSR]
		-Advantages
		-Advertising
			-Restrictions
				-Impact
			-Public broadcasting

	FTC regulations
		-Advertising
		-Fairness doctrine
			-Camel
				-Cigarette controversy
			-General Motors
			-Networks
			-Compared with environmentalists
				-Attacks on private enterprise

	Private enterprise, profits
		-President=s support
		-FTC
			-Problems with staff
		-Philosophical debate
		-Broadcast industry
		-Manufacturers and distributors
			-General Foods
				-Advertising
		-Networks

	License renewal problems
		-Public interest groups
		-New York Daily News station
		-Censorship dangers
		-Petitions
			-Statistics
				-FCC
		-Office of the Presidency
			-Proposed legislation
		-Denver, Colorado
			-Channel 2
				-Financial standing
				-Chicanos
					-Criticism of station
		-Wells
			-Appointment
			-FCC
		-Minnesota station
			-Station finances
			-Uncertainty over licenses
		-Proposed legislation on renewal
			-Klein
			-Flanigan
			-Whitehead
		-Scripps-Howard Memphis station
			-Coalition of whites
				-Complaints
			-Blacks
				-Complaints
			-Broadcasting Magazine
			-FCC
			-Costs
		-Courts
			-Decisions
		-Nebraska
			-Omaha
				-Complaints
					-Action consequences
		-Financial abilities of applicants
			-Washington baseball team
				-Comparison
		-Quaal

	Meeting with President
		-Television networks
			-Views about the Administration
				-Criticism
			-Need for balanced views
			-Freedom of expression
			-Cambodia coverage
				-J. William Fulbright
				-Edward M. (ATed@) Kennedy
					-Chappaquiddick
			-Vietnam bombing announcement
				-Quality of television coverage
					-Predictions
						-Accuracy
		-Network news
			-Columbia Broadcasting System [CBS]
			-National Broadcasting Company [NBC]
			-American Broadcasting Company [ABC]

	Legislative needs of broadcasters
		-Congressional committee
		-FCC
		-Courts
			-Conflicts with FCC

	Broadcast executives= problems
		-Courts
		-Washington
		-New York
		-FTC
			-Appeals Court in Washington
				-Decisions

	Court cases
		-Supreme Court
		-District Court cases
		-Federal cases
		-J[ames] Skelly Wright, Judge, US Court of Appeals, Washington, DC
		-Access cases
			-Vietnam
			-Court of Appeals
			-Supreme Court
			-Whitehead
			-Fairness doctrine
				-Problems
				-Black Panthers
				-Oil interests
			-Businessmen against Vietnam
				-Advertisement
				-Los Angeles
				-Court case
					-Wright

	Sports
		-President as sports fan
		-FCC
		-AAntisyphon@ petition
			-Free television vs. pay television
				-Football games
			-Cable Television [CATV]
			-Blackout rules
				-National Football League [NFL]

	Overextension of licenses
		-Bakersfield, California
			-Radio stations
				-Number
		-Denver
		-Chairman of the FCC
			-Burch
				-Concern
		-Fort Wayne Ultrahigh Frequency [UHF] station
			-Chicago
			-Cleveland
				-Free television

	Television industry
		-Capital investment
			-WGN-Television
			-Indianapolis
			-Bloomington-Indianapolis
				-Financial situation of Channel 4
			-CATV
			-Action
			-Shaw
			-Jack Harris
			-Klein
			-Shaw
				-Fort Wayne station
			-WGN television signal
				-Impact on local television
				-Fort Wayne
				-Indianapolis
				-Rockford
				-Springfield
		-Local situations
			-Broadcast signal
			-FCC
				-Decision
				-Supreme Court
				-Recent orders

	CATV
		-Support, opposition
		-Columbus, Indiana
			-Need for cable television
		-Networks
			-ABC
			-CBS

	License renewal
		-Analogy with President=s reelection

	Advertising
		-Criticism
		-Competition
			-Ford
			-General Motors
		-Federal standards
			-Brand names

	Station license renewals
		-Burch
		-Legislation
		-Opponents
			-Motives
			-Finances
			-Censorship dangers
		-Reform of procedures
			-Investments
			-Opponents
				-Motives

	Broadcasting industry
		-Legislation
		-License renewals
			-Ethical standards
			-Complaints
				-Legal action
			-Time involved
		-Proposed legislation
			-Robert P. Griffin
			-Joel T. Broyhill
		-Renewal procedures
			-Length of license
			-Burden of proof
			-California
				-Judicial selection
					-Compared to renewal procedures
			-Burden of proof principle
			-FCC
				-Courts
					-Workload
				-Communications Act
				-Administrative process
					-Opponent financing
						-Ford Foundation
						-Stern Foundation
		-Rochester, New York
			-Challenges to licenses
		-Denver
			-Paul Miller
				-Property
		-Legislative objectives
			-John O. Pastore
				-Administration support
		-Present policies
			-Reasons
		-Klein
		-Recognition of President
			-President=s concern for broadcasting
		-Censorship possibilities
			-Censors
			-Future Presidents
			-Quaal
		-License renewal
			-Mexican President
				-Views
				-Mexican constitution
					-Similarities to US Constitution

	Presidential cuff links
		-Meeting with President
		-Quaal
		-Buggings

	Presidential pins
		-Appearance
		-Cost

	Network news
		-Balancing of views
			-Haiphong mining
				-Commentary
				-Gerald R. Ford
		-NBC
			-David Brinkley
		-CBS
			-[Arnold] Eric Sevareid
				-Political views
		-Brinkley, Sevareid
		-William F. Buckley, Jr.
		-Unknown reporter=s column
			-President=s response

	Nebraska football team

	Blair House
		-Refreshment
		-Meeting

	Introductions
		-Ehrlichman
		-T. Whitehead
		-Snyder
		-General Alexander M. Haig, Jr.
		-Flanigan
		-Discussions

	[General conversation/Unintelligible]

President, et al. left at 6:28 pm

Conversation No. 103-5

Date:  June 26, 1972
Time:  Unknown after 3:05 pm until 3:41 pm
Location:  Cabinet Room

The President met with James Straubel, James Q. Wilson, Raymond L. Bramucci, Joe F. Ramsey, Jr., Claude L. Callegary, Robert W. Nolan, Jerome A. Cohen, H. Lynn Cavin, Brigadier General J. Paul Holland, Lieutenant General Herman Nickerson, Jr., Major General James F. Cantwell, Captain Leslie W. Willig, Thomas E. Morris, Carlos Rodriguez, J. B. Koch, Floyd Henderson, Cooper Holt, William Hauck, Francis Fini, and Donald Harlow
[Recording begins while the conversation is in progress]

	General Alexander M. Haig, Jr.=s briefing

	Support from organizations
		-National defense policy
		-Vietnam War
			-President=s policies
		-Veterans groups

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	National defense of US

	US international relations

	Vietnam

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	[Applause]

	Gifts
		-Presidential seal on cuff links

	[General conversation/Unintelligible]

	Strategic Arms Limitation Talks [SALT]

The President, et al. left at 3:41 pm

Conversation No. 103-7

Date:  June 27, 1972
Time:  Unknown after 10:08 am until 11:28 am
Location:  Cabinet Room

The President met with Wallace F. Bennett, Carl T. Curtis, Jack R. Miller, Leonard B. (ALen@) Jordan, Paul J. Fannin, Clifford P. Hansen, Robert P. Griffin, George P. Shultz, John D. Ehrlichman, John F. Evans, Jr., Clark MacGregor, Thomas C. Korologos, Ronald L. Ziegler, and James H. Falk
[Recording begins while the conversation is in progress]

	Welfare reform
		-Post-convention meeting
		-Cost estimates
		-Legislative schedule
			-Debt ceiling extension
			-Social Security
			-Revenue sharing
				-Legislative maneuvers
				-House Resolution [HR] 1
				-Executive session
		-Aid to Families with Dependent Children [AFDC]
			-Revenue sharing
			-Charles H. Percy
				-Proposal
		-Chairman Russell B. Long
		-Abraham A. Ribicoff
		-Long
			-Democrat votes
		-Bennett
			-Long
			-Ribicoff
			-Elliot L. Richardson
			-Long
			-Number of votes
		-Ribicoff position
			-George S. McGovern
				-Position on welfare
			-Financing
		-Administration=s position on HR 1
			-Opponents= views
			-Ribicoff=s proposals
			-Percy
			-Long=s amendments
				-Reaction to Ribicoff=s proposals
			-Liberals
				-Objections to bill
				-Ribicoff
		-Regional cost of living variations
			-Department of Health, Education, and Welfare [HEW]
			-New York City
			-Alabama
			-Griffin
				-Detroit
				-California
				-Illinois
			-New York
			-Alabama
			-Miller
			-New York City
			-Cost of living differential
		-New York
		-Alabama
		-Ribicoff supporters
			-Workfare
		-Long
			-Vote count
		-Debate
			-Length
			-Workfare
			-Republican Senators
		-Revenue sharing
			-Long
			-Ribicoff
		-Welfare reform
			-Popularity
		-Social Security
			-Debt limit
			-Veto possibility
		-HR 1
			-Difficulties
			-Family assistance program
			-Welfare Rights Organization
			-Ribicoff
			-McGovern
			-Ribicoff
				-Program
			-McGovern
				-Program
					-Costs
			-Number on welfare
			-Finance Committee
				-Program
					-Barbara Myers
						-Estimate of costs
			-Family assistance plan
			-Political popularity
			-President=s views on welfare
			-New York
				-Number on welfare
			-HR 1
				-Alternatives
			-Ribicoff
				-Proposals
		-Governors= positions
			-Federal programs
				-Abuses
		-Shultz
			-Private pension program
		-Social services
			-Republicans= program
			-California
			-Illinois
			-New York
			-Costs
			-Curtis
			-Social workers
			-Block grants to states
		-Timing for legislation
			-Election year
			-Social Security
				-Problems
			-Tax reform
			-Welfare reform
				-Ribicoff
				-Committee recommendations
				-HEW
				-Ribicoff
					-Long
			-Administration=s position
				-Senate Finance Committee
					-Social Security
						-Debt ceiling
		-Social Security
			-Veto power
		-Veto of bills
		-Social Security
			-John W. Byrnes
				-House of Representatives
			-Long
			-Shultz
			-Problem
		-Water bill
			-Veto
				-Costs
				-Environmentalists
		-Budget concern
		-HR 1
			-Opposition
			-Puerto Rico
				-Welfare recipients
					-Eligibility
				-Governor Luis A. Ferre
					-Opposition
			-Curtis
				-Guaranteed annual income
			-John James Williams
			-Social Security
				-Increases
		-Frank F. Church amendment
			-HEW Advisory Committee
		-Environmentalists
			-Peter Gropper [sp?]
				-Impact on economy
				-Doorman in New York City
				-Michael J. (AMike@) Mansfield
				-William O. Douglas

	HR 1
		-Popularity
		-Veto possibility
			-Congressional support
		-Social Security
		-Political impact
			-Ribicoff

	Timing for welfare legislation
		-Costs
		-Filibuster
		-Revenue sharing
		-Long
		-Mansfield
		-Long
			-Support for workfare

	Minimum wage
		-Republican bill
		-Numbers of laws

	Welfare reform
		-Filibuster
			-Ribicoff
			-Chairman of Finance Committee
		-Griffin
		-Caspar W. (ACap@) Weinberger
			-Detroit
				-Purchase of buses
		-Possibility for pilot projects
			-HEW
		-HR 1
		-Food stamps
			-Program

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	Uruguay

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	Social Security
		-Church
		-Long
			-Attitude

	Revenue sharing
		-Action of Finance Committee
		-Nelson A. Rockefeller
		-Richard B. Ogilvie

	Debt ceiling
		-Wilbur D. Mills
			-House rules
			-Opposition to increase
		-Church
		-Byrnes
		-Long
		-Hearings

	Social Security
		-Church
		-Robert M. Ball
		-Long

	Jordan
		-Work in Senate

	Debt ceiling
		-Payroll savings
		-Bill payments
		-Debt ceiling
			-Uses
			-Extension

	Gordon L. Allott

	Robert C. Byrd

	McGovern
		-Welfare program
			-President=s counter-proposals
			-Number on welfare rolls

	Gift presentations
		-Cuff links
		-Pins
		-Finance Committee
		-Long

	John V. Tunney amendment
		-Brazil
		-Vote

	Attorney General
		-Administration action
		-William W. Milligan
			-Roth decision

The President, et al. left at 11:28 am

Conversation No. 103-9

Date:  Unknown between June 27 and June 30, 1972
Time:  Unknown between 11:28 am, June 27 and 10:05 am, June 30, 1972
Location:  Cabinet Room

Unknown people [White House tour group] met

	Presidential Seal

	American flag

	President=s flag
		-Presidential Seal

Stephen B. Bull entered at an unknown time after 11:28 am, June 27, 1972

	Bull
		-Introduction
		-Work with President

	President=s Oval Office
		-Tour
		-Porcelain birds
		-Questions

	Cabinet Room chairs

Conversation No. 103-12

Date:  Unknown between June 27 and June 30, 1972
Time:  Unknown between 11:28 am, June 27 and 10:05 am, June 30, 1972
Location:  Cabinet Room

Unknown people [White House tour group] met

	Cabinet officers
		-Titles
		-Cabinet Room chairs
		-Secretary George P. Shultz

	Cabinet Room
		-Chairs

Recording was cut off at an unknown time before 10:05 am, June 30, 1972

Conversation No. 103-10

Date:  June 30, 1972
Time:  Unknown between 10:05 am and 10:16 pm
Location:  Cabinet Room

The President met with George P. Shultz, Herbert Stein, Virginia H. Knauer, General George A. Lincoln, Casper W. (ACap@) Weinberger, James D. Hodgson, Peter G. Peterson, Earl L. Butz, Marvin H. Kosters, Richard B. Cheney, Richard J. Alfultis, Joseph Mullaney, Donald Smith, J. Dawson Ahalt, Bert M. Concklin, J. Charles Partee, Donald A. Paarlberg, Richard C. Van Dusen, Laurence H. Silberman, and Ronald Brooks
[Recording begins while the conversation is in progress]

	Food prices
		-Meat prices
		-All food
		-Wage-price controls
			-Problems
			-International Harvester
			-Pay Board
				-Amalgamated Meatcutters Union
					-Wage settlement
				-Food chain employees
		-Meat import quota
		-Source of problem
		-Governmental purchasing
			-Defense Department
				-Beef
				-Supply of feed
					-Reduction
					-Menus
				-Pork
				-Mess halls
					-Amount of food
			-Agriculture
				-Food purchases
			-Defense
		-Organizations
			-President=s view
				-Chain stores
			-AJawboning@
				-Wage-price controls
				-Meeting with groups in food industry
					-Department heads
		-Shultz
		-Stein
		-Organizations
			-Businesses, wholesale and retail
			-Associations
			-Labor groups

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	Beef imports

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		-Tariffs
			-Beef
				-Cattle producers
			-Mississippi
			-National Farm Broadcasting
				-Florida
			-Clifford P. Hansen
				-Wyoming
				-Stock growers
		-President=s view of price controls
			-Price control concerns of cattlemen
		-Secretary of Agriculture

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	Beef imports

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		-Cattle states
			-Florida
			-Mississippi
		-Public relations
			-Effect
			-Quotas
				-Controls, freeze
					-Speculation
			-Cost of Living Council
				-Food prices
					-Farmer
					-Demand for food
				-Food stamps
					-Distribution
				-Demand for food
		-Shortage of supply
			-Prices
			-Administration=s actions
			-Direct controls
			-Sense of crisis
			-Farmers= restraint
		-President=s backing of administration policy
			-Secretary of State
			-Chairman of the Cost of Living Council
		-Jawboning
			-Amalgamated Meat Cutters
			-George Meany
			-Chain stores
				-Price increases
			-Amalgamated Meat Cutters

	President=s appreciation
		-Stein

	Food stamps
		-David Humphreys
		-Weinberger
		-Shultz
			-Quality of program

President left at 11:04 am

	Agenda and schedule

	Health Services Industry
		-Reclassification
		-Rules

Recording ends at an unknown time before 10:16 pm, while the conversation is in progress

Conversation No. 103-11

Date:  July 1, 1972
Time:  Unknown after 10:05 am until 10:40 am
Location:  Cabinet Room

The President met with Jesse M. Calhoon, Leo V. Berger, Edwin A. Johnson, Joseph Kahn, Chung C. Wei, John R. Gilbride, James F. Goodrich, Samuel D. Timmons, Walter F. William, Charles W. Colson, Peter G. Peterson, Peter M. Flanigan, Helen B. Bentley, Walter Oates, James T. Lynn, Andrew E. Gibson, and Robert J. Blackwell
[Recording begins while the conversation is in progress]

	US ship construction
		-Industry
		-Goal
			-Air freight
				-Supersonic Transport [SST]
			-Merchant Marine
			-San Pedro, California
		-Productivity
			-P2 tankers
				-Capacities
			-Comparison with contemporary ships
			-Improvements
			-Union cooperation
		-Strikes
			-Cost of Living Council
			-Number
		-Tanker construction
			-Maritime Commission
			-San Diego
			-New York
				-Brooklyn Navy Yard
			-Employment figures
				-Increases
				-Benefits
				-Minorities
		-Presidential Committee on Shipyards
			-Visits
		-Jobs
			-Construction
			-Seamen
			-Administration=s goals
		-Productivity
			-Seamen
				-Comparisons with 1960s
			-Airlines
		-Shipbuilding
			-San Francisco
			-Negotiations
			-San Francisco customers
		-California shipbuilders= policy
			-Pacific orientation
		-Eastern shipbuilders= policy
			-European orientation
		-President=s position

	Pacific Rim
		-Japan
			-Trade with US
			-Size
			-Soviet Union
			-People=s Republic of China [PRC]
			-Southeast Asia
			-Taiwan
			-Indonesia
			-South Pacific
			-Thailand
		-PRC
			-Compared with Japanese trade
			-Economic potential
			-Communist system
		-Chinese
			-Singapore
			-Hong Kong
			-Taiwan
			-Bangkok
			-San Francisco
			-Japanese
		-San Francisco
			-Joe Moore

	Eastern Europe
		-Potential
		-Poland
		-Czechoslovakia
		-Secretary Peterson
			-Upcoming trip to Union of Soviet Socialist Republics [USSR]

	Transportation methods
		-Air freight
		-San Diego
		-Merchant Marine
			-Importance

	Relations with Communist nations
		-Merchant Marine
			-Wheat
				-Manhattan
				-Poland
				-Soviet Union
					-Odessa
				-Manhattan
				-Soviet Union
				-Polish Citizens
		-President=s trip to Peking and Moscow
		-Trade with United States
			-PRC
			-Soviet Union
				-Credit

	US shipbuilding
		-Construction order
			-Jobs
			-Size

	Atomic explosion
		-Article on Potsdam
			-Josef V. Stalin
			-Winston S. Churchill

	US shipbuilding
		-Long term picture for competitiveness
			-Research and development
				-Propulsion systems
			-Government role
			-Deepwater docks
				-Canada
				-Bahamas

	US economic policy
		-World War II
			-Japan
				-Destruction
				-Recovery
			-Germany
				-President=s visit
		-Soviets
			-Communist system
			-Russians
		-US production
		-Relations with
			-Japanese
			-Germans
		-Europe
			-Potential economic strength
		-Russians
		-Chinese
		-Eastern Europeans
			-Czechs
		-Latin America
		-Asia
		-Middle East

	US transportation industry
		-Yankee Clipper
		-SST
			-President=s support
			-Foreign aircraft
			-Length of flights
		-Cooperation of industry and labor
			-Government role
			-Labor=s attitude
		-America=s standing in world
			-Attitude
			-Soviets
			-Japanese
			-Attitude

	Adjournment
		-Cuff links
		-Pins

	Industry praise for
		-Bentley
		-Gibson
		-Blackwell

	Russian grain shipments
		-Gibson
			-Discussions with US
			-Flanigan

	Fourth of July
		-Celebration
		-1968 Democratic Convention
			-Richard J. Daley

	[General conversation/Unintelligible]

The President, et al. left at 10:40 am