Conversation No. 105-1

Date:  September 8, 1972
Time:  10:43 am - unknown before 5:31 pm
Location:  Cabinet Room

The President met with Myles J. Ambrose, Gordon L. Allott, James E. Baker, Samuel A. Alter, Francis M. Buckley, Romualdo Caballero, William Callahan, Stephen J. Cloud, John F. Cooney, William J. Corcoran, Frederick J. Dana, J. Michael Fitzsimmons, Stephen M. Fletcher, John C. Gibbons, Charles Pinnell, Harold Jacquet, Samuel Levine, Eb. B. Luckel, Lee A. Marinaccio, Michael D. Marrs, Jose E. Martinez, Scott T. Miller, Charles Morachnik, Alexia Morrison, Norbert A. Nadel, Wayne H. Paris, Charles I. Poole, Irving Praeger, Vincent L. Promuto, Peter M. Rosen, Benjamin P. Schoen, Daniel J. Sears, Robert Sprague, Anna Stool, Patrick Sullivan, Rick Torres, Jay C. Waldman, Jackson White, John S. Wilbur, Jr., Dale R. Wright, Robert D. Zitko, David Jaffe, Monty Gray, Egil (ABud@) Krogh, Jr., and Geoffrey C. Shepard; the White House photographer and members of the press were present at the beginning of the meeting

	[General conversation/Unintelligible]

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	Drug Abuse Law Enforcement
		-Lawyers
			-Age
		-Heroin
			-Supply
			-Addicts
			-Arrests
			-Grand Jury
		-Courts
			-Federal
				-Law changes
					-Sentences
				-Treatment of pushers
				-Attorney General
					-US Attorneys
				-Judges
					-Attitude toward drug users and pushers
					-Circuit court
				-Support for law enforcement officials
					-San Francisco
					-Washington, DC
		-Possible punishment for sellers of narcotics
			-Department of Justice
			-US Attorneys
			-Richard G. Kleindienst
			-Effect on courts
				-Federal courts
				-State courts
					-Governors
				-County and Superior courts
				-National Association of Attorneys General
					-Jurisdictions
		-Public opinion
			-District attorneys
			-Kleindienst
			-Courts
			-US Attorneys
			-Judges
			-Courts
				-District attorneys
				-State attorneys
				-Federal attorneys
			-District attorneys
				-Torres
		-Judges and sentencing
			-Possible legislation
				-Mandatory sentencing
					-President=s view
					-Chief Justice
						-Views
			-Possible approach to Federal judges
				-Judge Albert P. Murrah
					-Executive Office of US Courts
				-Warren E. Burger
				-Talking to judges
			-Selling heroin
				-Los Angeles
				-District courts
		-Users and pushers
			-Economic motivations
		-Probation officers
		-Arrest figures
			-Sales to agents
			-New York
				-Heroin
					-1972 election
					-Grand juries
		-Second term goals
			-Federal judges
			-Allocation
			-Congress
		-Poll findings
			-Harris
			-Gallup
		-Educating judges
			-Detroit
			-Confronting judges
			-Burger
				-Circuit court
				-American Bar Association
			-Probation officers
			-[Forename unknown] Kennan [sp?]
			-Police
				-San Francisco
					-Movie ADirty Harry@
						-Clint Eastwood
			-Burger
		-Setting up Office of Drug Abuse Law Enforcement [ODALE]
			-Miami
		-Talking with judges
			-Contempt
		-ODALE Group
		-The law enforcement profession
			-Comparison to wartime military service
			-Thomas E. Dewey
				-Presidential nomination
		-Meeting participants
			-Age
			-Probation officers
			-US Attorneys
			-Contribution
			-Work
				-Probation officer
				-Judge
				-Prosecutor
			-Youth
		-Congressional Black Caucus
			-Charles A. Rangel
				-Harlem
					-Democratic district
				-Turkey

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	Turkey

[To listen to the segment (42s) declassified on 02/28/2002, please refer to RC# E-599.]

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				-Puerto Ricans
				-Blacks
				-Housing
				-Personal reminiscence
			-The President=s personal reminiscence
		-Drug problem in high income areas
			-Beverly Hills, Pacific Palisades, and Bel Air, California

	Gift presentation
		-Presidential cufflinks

The President left at 11:15 am

	[General conversation]

	Call for questions
		-Foreign policy
		-Bureaucracy

Recording ends while the conversation is in progress; Ambrose, et al. left at an unknown time before 5:31 pm

Conversation No. 105-11

Date:  Unknown between September 8 and September 11, 1972
Time:  Unknown between 5:31 pm, September 8 and 10:06 am, September 11, 1972
Location:  Cabinet Room

The President met with Stephen B. Bull [?]

	[Unintelligible]

The President and Bull [?] left at an unknown time before 10:06 am, September 11, 1972

Conversation No. 105-12

Date:  Unknown between September 8 and September 11, 1972
Time:  Unknown between 5:31 pm, September 8 and 10:06 am, September 11, 1972
Location:  Cabinet Room

A tour group met

	[Unintelligible]

The tour group left at an unknown time before 10:06 am, September 11, 1972
Conversation No. 105-2

Date:  Unknown between September 8 and September 11, 1972
Time:  Unknown between 5:31 pm, September 8 and 10:06 am, September 11, 1972
Location:  Cabinet Room

A tour group met

	Cabinet Room
		-Chairs
			-The President, Vice President, the Cabinet members
		-[Thomas] Woodrow Wilson=s portrait
		-View from window
			-Rose Garden
				-Tricia Nixon Cox=s wedding to Edward R. F. Cox
		-Access to White House offices

The tour group left at an unknown time before 10:06 am, September 11, 1972

Conversation No. 105-3

Date:  Unknown between September 8 and September 11, 1972
Time:  Unknown between 5:31 pm, September 8 and 10:06 am, September 11, 1972
Location:  Cabinet Room

A tour group met

	Cabinet Room
		-Cabinet meetings
		-Chairs
			-Robert H. Finch
			-Donald H. Rumsfeld
		-Service in Cabinet
			-John A. Volpe
			-Peter G. Peterson
			-Secretaries of Defense, State, Transportation, Health, Education, and Welfare [HEW]

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	Cabinet Room
		-Chairs
			-Presentation upon leaving Cabinet

The tour group left at an unknown time before 10:06 am, September 11, 1972

Conversation No. 105-5

Date:  September 11, 1972
Time:  Unknown before 10:06 am until 11:06 am
Location:  Cabinet Room

William P. Rogers met with George P. Shultz, Peter G. Peterson, Earl L. Butz, Herbert Stein, Peter M. Flanigan, Caspar W. (ACap@) Weinberger, General Alexander M. Haig, Jr., Carroll G. Brunthaver, [David] Kenneth Rush, William R. Pearce, Deane R. Hinton, James B. Loken, Robert J. Morris, Robert D. Hormats, and Ronald L. Ziegler; the White House photographer was present at the beginning of the meeting

	General conversation

The President entered at 10:06 am

	Schedule

	[Unintelligible -- Camera noise]

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	Trade relations with Europe

[To listen to the segment (45m29s) declassified on 02/28/2002, please refer to RC# E-599, E-600.]

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	Legislative agenda
		-Post-election
		-Polls
		-George Killian
			-Franklin D. Roosevelt
				-Election victories
					-George Washington
					-Roosevelt
						-Alfred M. (AAlf@) Landon
					-Harry S Truman
					-Lyndon B. Johnson
					-Barry M. Goldwater
					-Dwight D. Eisenhower
						-Adlai E. Stevenson, II
					-The President=s electoral hope
					-Goldwater
					-John F. Kennedy
		-Legislative opportunities
			-George S. McGovern

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	World balance of power

[To listen to the segment (4m20s) declassified on 02/28/2002, please refer to RC# E-600.]

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	Memoranda
		-Campaign and eection
		-Release
			-Study
			-North Atlantic Treaty Organization [NATO]

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		-Circulation

	[General conversation/Unintelligible]

The President, et al. left at 11:06 am

Conversation No. 105-6

Date:  September 21, 1972
Time:  12:00 pm - 12:06 pm
Location:  Cabinet Room

The President met with J. Glenn Beall, Jr., Strom Thurmond, Melvin Price, O. Clark Fisher, Charles E. Bennett, Samuel S. Stratton, Otis G. Pike, Richard H. Ichord, G. Elliott Hagan, Charles H. Wilson, Louise Day Hicks, Richard C. White, William F. (ABob@) Nichols, Jack T. Brinkley, Wilbur C. (ADan@) Daniel, Gillespie V. (ASonny@) Montgomery, Harold L. Runnels, Leslie C. Arends, William G. Bray, Robert C. (ABob@) Wilson, Charles S. Gubser, Durward G. Hall, Donald D. Clancy, Carleton J. King, William L. Dickinson, John E. Hunt, G. William Whitehurst, Floyd D. Spence, C. W. (ABill@) Young, Walter E. Powell, William Conover, Les Aspin, Melvin R. Laird, Frank M. Slatinshek, Joseph N. Sanson, Lieutenant General Herman Nickerson, Jr., Thomas E. Morris, Patrick E. Carr, Robert W. Nolan, Martin M. Ostrow, Joseph J. Matthews, Mr. Beave, and John E. Nidecker; the White House photographer was present at the beginning of the meeting

	[Unintelligible -- camera noise]

	Bill signing [House Resolution [HR] 10670, a bill providing for the survivors of retired military personnel]
		-Compared with status for civilian services
			-Foreign Service
		-House and Senate Armed Services Committees
		-Voluntary armed services
		-Department of Defense

	The President=s comments
		-Respect for Armed Forces personnel
		-Support from Congress

	Pen presentation

	[General conversation/Unintelligible]

The President, et al. left at 12:06 pm

Conversation No. 105-7

Date:  September 25, 1972
Time:  12:05 pm - 12:18 pm
Location:  Cabinet Room

The President met with Clark MacGregor, Maurice H. Stans, Joyce Barbour, Paul E. Barrick, Janice Bell, Mildred Bighinatti, Suzanne Bourbonnais, Beebe Bourne, Judy Breck, Angela Buchanan, Warren Chase, Buckley M. Byers, Arden Chambers, Constance Corby, Kathy Cerick, Jane Dannenhauer, J. Rusell Deane, III, Whitney de Roulet, Charles Dexter, Maureen Devlin, Yolanda Dorminy, Stanley Ebner, Thomas W. Evans, Peter J. Fokine, Elaine Hall, Judy Harbaugh, Judy Hoback, Robert Hardy, Daniel W. Hofgren, Peter A. Holmes, Carroll Holton, Christine A. Hristakos, Eveline Hyde, Erik Kihl, Joan Kreitler, George Lynch, Charlotte Lyeth, Michael Miller, Robert L. Krattli, Karen Minor, Lee R. Nunn, Robert P. Odell, Jr., M. Elaine O=Gorman, Thomas A. Pappas, Chip Pashayan, Lois Rezabek, Lora Rossi, Harold B. Scott, Michael Scully, Rodney Smith, Shirley A. Straker, Kenneth K. Talmadge, Florence Thompson, Diane K. Waltman, C. Langhorne Washburn, John Tayloe Washburn, Newell P. Weed, Jr., and Barbara Zapp

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The President, et al. left at 12:18 pm

Conversation No. 105-8

Date:  Unknown between September 25 and September 29, 1972
Time:  Unknown between 12:18 pm, September 25 and 11:03 am, September 29, 1972
Location:  Cabinet Room

Unknown people met

	[Unintelligible]

The unknown people left at an unknown time before 11:03 am, September 29, 1972

Conversation No. 105-9

Date:  September 29, 1972
Time:  Unknown between 9:19 am and 10:06 pm
Location:  Cabinet Room

George P. Shultz met with Donald H. Rumsfeld, Earl L. Butz, Peter G. Peterson, James D. Hodgson, George W. Romney, Caspar W. (ACap@) Weinberger, General George A. Lincoln, Herbert Stein, Virginia H. Knauer, Arthur F. Burns, John G. Veneman, Robert M. Ball, Johnnie M. Walters, Arthur S. Flemming, Thomas B. Curtis, Edward Preston, Marina von N. Whitman, James W. McLane, William Geimer, Richard B. Cheney, Bert M. Concklin, William Walker, Marvin H. Kosters, Donald R. Murdoch, William I. Greener, Jr., and C. Robert Lane; the White House photographer and members of the press were present at the beginning of the meeting

	Cost of Living Council

The President entered at 11:03 am

	Greeting

	Photographs

	[Unintelligible -- camera noise]

	Speechmaking
		-Shultz
		-Butz

	Agenda
		-Rumsfeld
		-Burns
			-Price controls
				-Foreign reaction
		-Shultz
			-American economy
				-Europe
			-Comments on the President=s speech
				-Hobart Rowen
		-Shultz=s speech

	Social Security
		-Rumsfeld
		-Increases
			-Rent control
				-Curtis
					-Rent Advisory Board
				-Flemming
				-Walters
		-Residences of Social Security recipients
			-Home ownership
			-Renting
			-Percentage of income for housing
				-Northeast
			-Cost of maintenance
				-Tax assessments
		-Rent increases
			-Compared with Federal pay increases
			-Concern with landlords= and tenants= rights and responsibilities
				-Illegal rent increases
					-Internal Revenue Service [IRS]
						-Rent watch
						-Rent sweep
				-Mailings
				-Publicity
			-Cheney
			-Statements by Rumsfeld, Flemming
				-Press
				-IRS
			-Decontrol
				-Four-family ownership
			-Landlords
				-Abuses
			-Curtis
				-Rent Advisory Board
				-Tripartite Board
			-Nursing home operators
			-Shultz
				-Directive
			-Senior Citizens= Group
				-Talks by surrogates
			-Ball
				-Social Security Office
				-Presidential Directive
			-IRS
				-Enforcement power
				-Justice Department [DOJ]

	Food
		-Rumsfeld
		-Inflation
			-1972, 1973 figures
			-Shultz
			-Stein
			-Kosters
				-Assistant Director for Planning and Analysis, Cost of Living Council [COLC]

	Work stoppages
		-Hodgson
		-Strikes
			-Numbers
			-Man-days lost
			-Length
			-Industrial peace
				-Wage and price controls
				-Shultz

	Production
		-Burns
		-Leaders
			-Economic journals
				-Great Britain
					-Price and wage controls
					-Labor relations
		-Construction
		-Burns
		-Shultz
		-Poll
			-Harris
				-Controls
					-Guidelines
						-Burns
					-Competition

	Labor relations
		-Economic factors
			-Wage settlements
				-Inflations
			-Labor market
			-Construction
			-Public sector
		-Collective bargaining agreements
			-Workers to be covered
			-Effective wage changes
			-Sectors
			-First-year wage increases
				-Construction
				-Manufacturing
			-Cost of living increases
			-Inflation
			-1973 situations
				-Steel
				-Rubber
			-First-year wage increases
			-Inflation
				-Real wages
				-Cost of living escalators
			-Deferred increases
			-1972
				-Wage increases
					-Construction
						-Influence on other sectors
				-Real wages
			-Cost of living
			-1973 prospects
				-Wages
					-Cost of living
						-Real wage increases
			-Presentation summarized

	Food
		-US Department of Agriculture [USDA]
			-Data reports
				-COLC action
				-Retail prices
				-Beef
				-September vis-a-vis August figures
				-Timing of reports
		-Retail situation
			-California
				-Los Angeles area grocery stores
					-Ralph=s Grocery Company
					-Alpha Beta Markets, Inc.
			-Rumsfeld=s actions
		-Beef
			-Long range
			-Imports

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	Beef imports

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			-Per capita consumption
				-Increasing production
					-Other crops
			-Marginal cost areas
			-Peterson
			-Congress
			-Future trends
			-Farmers
		-Pork production
		-India
			-Vegetarian cuisine
		-Cattlemen
			-Temporary quotas
			-Shultz
			-Stein
		-Beef imports
			-Quantities
			-Secretary of Agriculture
			-Knauer

	US economy
		-Economic factors
		-Controls
		-Wages
		-US compared with other industrial nations
			-Inflation
			-Rate of growth
			-Real wages
		-Beef
		-Unemployment
		-US compared with other industrial nations
			-Inflation
			-Rate of growth
			-Real wages
			-Japan
			-Germany
			-Britain
			-France
		-Performance of the COLC
		-Economic factors
			-Consumer Price Index [CPI]
			-Wholesale Price Index [WPI]
			-Unemployment figures
			-Use of figures
				-Repetition
		-Approach prior to the election
			-Full employment without war
				-Vietnam
				-Inflation
				-Eisenhower administration

	Public Broadcasting System
		-Sander Vanocur

The President left at 12:03 pm

	COLC schedule
		-Stein

Recording ends at an unknown time before 10:06 pm, while the conversation is in progress

Conversation No. 105-10

Date:  October 2, 1972
Time:  Unknown after 8:05 am until 9:34 am
Location:  Cabinet Room

Leslie C. Arends met with John B. Anderson, Samuel L. Devine, William J. (AJack@) Edwards, H. Allen Smith, John J. Rhodes, Barber B. Conable, Jr., Frank T. Bow, John W. Byrnes, Charls E. Walker, Caspar W. (ACap@) Weinberger, John D. Ehrlichman, William E. Timmons, Ronald L. Ziegler, James E. Smith, Richard K. Cook, Kenneth R. Cole, Jr., and William L. Gifford

	[General conversation/Unintelligible]

The President entered at 8:36 am

	Greetings
		-Edwards

	Debt Limit-Expenditure Ceiling Bill
		-Vetoes
		-Tax increase
		-Budget
		-Veto
			-Water bill
		-Wayne N. Aspinall
		-Supreme Court
		-Expenditures
			-Tax increase
			-Domestic Policy Council
			-Environmental initiative
			-Spending restraint
			-Congress
				-Appropriations
				-George H. Mahon
			-Veto
				-Congress
			-Water bill
				-Walker
			-Mahon
				-Wilbur D. Mills
		-Debt ceiling increase
			-Expiration of temporary ceiling
			-House Resolution [HR] 16810
				-Ways and Means Committee
			-Tax increase
			-Inflation
				-Compared with late 1960s
				-Economic factors relating to
					-Consumer Price Index [CPI]
					-Wholesale Price Index [WPI]
		-Congress
			-Revenues
			-Spending
				-Options
			-Priorities
			-Reform
			-Enactment of spending ceiling
			-HR 16810
				-Debt ceiling
				-Al Ullman
					-Title 3
				-Joint Committee
					-Ways and Means
					-House of Appropriations
					-Speaker of the House
					-Senate Finance
					-Senate Appropriations
					-Senate President Pro Tempore
					-Responsibility
				-Sponsors
					-Mills
					-Bow
					-Byrnes
			-Democratic leadership
			-The President=s view
				-Foreign leaders
					-French
					-British
					-Germans
				-America=s standing relative to inflation and growth
					-Germany
					-Japan
					-France
					-Britain
					-Western Europe and Japan
						-Inflationary push
							-Wage-price push
			-Economic indicators
				-CPI
				-WPI
				-Food
				-Corporations
					-Steel
					-Automobiles
					-Manufacturing
				-CPI
			-America=s standing among industrial nations
				-Inflation
				-Growth
				-Real income
			-Economy
				-Rate of growth
				-Deficit
				-A=68 Syndrome@
				-Inflationary spiral
					-Congress
						-Tax increase
			-Spending ceiling
				-Weinberger
				-Social Security
				-HR 1 [Welfare Reform]
					-Abraham A. Ribicoff
					-Welfare reform
					-George S. McGovern
				-Deficit
					-Influence on 1973 and 1974
				-Social services
					-Mandatory spending
					-McGovern and Democrats
						-Defense
							-Taxes
							-Inflation
				-Mahon
					-Lame duck session
				-Budget
				-Presidential courage
				-Senate
					-Social Security
				-Office of Economic Opportunity [OEO]
				-Ways and Means
		-Congress
			-Potential blame
		-Deficit
			-Spending ceiling
			-Inflation
			-Taxation
			-International attention
		-Water bill
			-Authorization bill
		-Expenditure ceiling
			-Veto
				-Water bill
				-Department of Health, Education, and Welfare [HEW]
		-Spending ceiling
			-Thomas P. (ATip@) O=Neill, Jr.
			-Veterans= pensions
			-Health services
			-Ceiling
				-Vital areas
				-Social Security
				-Revenue sharing
				-Veterans= pensions
				-Potential cuts
					-HEW
					-OEO
					-Milk fund
				-Defense
				-Government employees
					-Department of the Interior
					-Department of Agriculture
					-Employment
				-Defense
					-Uniformed personnel
					-Civilian personnel
						-Pentagon
				-Department of the Treasury
					-Customs Service
				-Lawyers
		-Personnel cuts
			-Administration record
			-Administration objective
				-Productivity
			-Possible areas
				-Nurses
					-Veterans= Administration
				-Internal Revenue Service [IRS]
				-Customs Service
					-Heroin
				-Department of State
				-Department of Defense
				-Central Intelligence Agency [CIA]
				-Congress
				-White House
			-Compared with campaign staff size for productivity
		-Debt ceiling
		-Procedures
			-Mills
			-Closed rule
			-Speaker
			-[Thomas] Hale Boggs
			-Mahon
			-Sub-committee chairman of Appropriations
			-Democratic regional whips
			-Rules Committee
				-Reporting deadline
					-Congressional veto
					-Lame duck session
					-Item veto
			-Committee bill
				-Anderson
				-Whip check
			-Gerald R. Ford
			-Mills
			-Anderson
				-Policy Committee
				-Party loyalty
			-Lyndon B. Johnson
		-Analysis of issue
			-Inflation
			-Tax increase
			-Spending
				-Co-sponsors
		-Conference
			-Herb Stein=s upcoming meeting with Anderson
		-Michael J. (AMike@) Mansfield and Russell B. Long
		-[Milton R.?] Young
		-Scenario
			-Senate
				-Action
			-House
				-Veto strategy
			-Weinberger
		-Political issue
			-Party loyalty
				-Republicans
				-Congress
					-Democratic leadership
					-Mansfield
					-Senate leadership
			-Surrogate speakers
			-Congressional campaign committee
		-Smith
			-Timing
				-House
				-Senate
		-Support for vetoes
		-Jurisdictional overtones
			-Ways and Means
			-Appropriations Committee
			-Mahon
			-Lewis Deschler
				-Bow
		-Republican platform
			-Legislative ceiling on spending
		-Appropriations Committee
			-Mahon
		-Outside groups
			-Bankers
			-Insurance
			-Chambers of Commerce
		-Line item veto
			-[Leonor K.?] Sullivan
			-Maximum percentage reduction
				-Conable
				-Social Security
				-Revenue sharing
			-Nurses
				-Veterans= hospitals
			-Customs Service
			-Precedent
				-Surtax
				-Johnson
			-Relationship with tax increase
		-Scenario
			-Mahon substitute
			-Byrnes
				-Re-committal
			-Separate vote
			-Mahon
			-Absenteeism
			-Success
		-Social Security
			-Payroll tax increases
			-General revenue
				-Tax increase
			-Washington Post
			-Veto
		-Veto count
			-California
		-Press briefing
			-Ehrlichman
			-Weinberger
			-Leaders on the Hill
		-Schedule
			-Ford
		-The President=s expression of appreciation
			-Democratic leadership
			-Republicans

	[General conversation/Unintelligible]

	Social Security

The President, et al. left at 9:34 am